M44 Host Signups (Poll Phase 2)

[MECHDRAGON777]

Where is my game?!
I am disappoint.

Your joke is located on the very first page. Thank you very much.

[Danny]

I've been waiting at least two years to host this game.

If you don't vote you'll be SORRY.

Spoiler: show

[116taj]

Vote for TP Terror! (although it isn't as terrifying as before)

AWESOME POSTER! HANG IT ON YOUR WALL! please don't



oops I spelled annihilate wrong in my poster grammar nazis don't kill me plz

[Zeldamaster12]

golly it's awful close




TENSION RISES

[Danny]

I hope I win.

[TLtimelord]

I'm sorry, but after seeing Sanct's track record as a host, I have little to no understanding as to why he's winning.

[Zeldamaster12]

I'm sorry, but after seeing Sanct's track record as a host, I have little to no understanding as to why he's winning.

I'd like to think he's learned from his mistakes. We'll see how it goes if he wins I guess.

[TLtimelord]

I'm sorry, but after seeing Sanct's track record as a host, I have little to no understanding as to why he's winning.

I'd like to think he's learned from his mistakes. We'll see how it goes if he wins I guess.

You know if he wins I'd really like him to prove me wrong, but I don't think it's worth taking the chance of another game like the ones he's hosted.

[Danny]

I might sound like an asshole and I know I'm not a gamemaster anymore, but I am still allowed to give out criticisms like these. In Sanct's game, the Mafia is incredibly powerful, not to the extent that it's broken, but to the extent that I can definitely see them winning, if not putting the town on the extreme edge of losing. Even with the town's roles, the Mafia still has the largest advantage over them, with one of them being nightkill immune, two of them essentially being able to remove lynch votes, and one of them can steal the Doctor or the Shaman's ability, and I would imagine the ability of the Magmatic Spirit if it was used on him? Not sure how that works in rulings terms.

Unless I'm misunderstanding how the Lava Slime role works, the Mafia is still incredibly powerful in Sanct's game, and I've noticed this is something he tends to do in his games anyway. This is just something I think people need to consider before jumping onto the bandwagon of voting for his game because it's "good". Not trying to be a dick or influence anyone or anything, but I think this is something our Mafia community actually needs to realize before they vote for a game. Don't just vote for a game because you think it looks cool, actually do some thinking and figure out if something is going to be unbalanced, and you can actually voice your concerns about these so the gamemasters can see it. I have tried to stress that during my time as GM, and I hope the current GMs can try to reinforce that too. It's okay to give criticisms in the host signups.

[Julia Pseudo]

^
I support this

also exCUSE me how does one go from 7 to 4 votes

need i remind you



vote for danny's game too

[PersonNamedUser]

I might sound like an asshole and I know I'm not a gamemaster anymore, but I am still allowed to give out criticisms like these. In Sanct's game, the Mafia is incredibly powerful, not to the extent that it's broken, but to the extent that I can definitely see them winning, if not putting the town on the extreme edge of losing. Even with the town's roles, the Mafia still has the largest advantage over them, with one of them being nightkill immune, two of them essentially being able to remove lynch votes, and one of them can steal the Doctor or the Shaman's ability, and I would imagine the ability of the Magmatic Spirit if it was used on him? Not sure how that works in rulings terms.

Unless I'm misunderstanding how the Lava Slime role works, the Mafia is still incredibly powerful in Sanct's game, and I've noticed this is something he tends to do in his games anyway. This is just something I think people need to consider before jumping onto the bandwagon of voting for his game because it's "good". Not trying to be a dick or influence anyone or anything, but I think this is something our Mafia community actually needs to realize before they vote for a game. Don't just vote for a game because you think it looks cool, actually do some thinking and figure out if something is going to be unbalanced, and you can actually voice your concerns about these so the gamemasters can see it. I have tried to stress that during my time as GM, and I hope the current GMs can try to reinforce that too. It's okay to give criticisms in the host signups.

to an extent, i actually somewhat agree with this, no offense to sanct, but sometimes when i'm looking at his games, i notice that there are really only a few intresting or new roles when playing. That's not what i'm mainly talking about though, what i'm talking about is that his games usually have FAR TOO FEW townspeople in them, i've noticed in every game he's hosted on here, the town has lost, and i personally don't think it's just player skill and the such, i feel that the town in the games was too
small, like, i remember frozen solid only having 11 townspeople vs 4 mafia and a third party. And infact, Moral match was a similar setup, their was only around like 11 townspeople in it too vs 4 mafia and a third party. The fact that a 11 V 4 game is already pretty stacked as seen in M43 as the town can only afford to mislynch thrice was
bad enough, but the fact that the town could be losing three people and in quite a likely scenario due to a mislynch, you can really see how it can narrow down the chances. as it's been said, try to have atleast 3-4 townies per mafia, which i feel sanct's games don't exactly do. Infact, that's most likely one of the reasons the mafia won M35, because of allaince infiltration + Banished Townie + Snow Golem Exploit, it really made it stacked. I'm not saying you guys have to stop voting Sanct's games,
but just get that they really aren't perfect.

Or to sum it up:

^
I support this

[Valentine]

I might sound like an asshole and I know I'm not a gamemaster anymore, but I am still allowed to give out criticisms like these. In Sanct's game, the Mafia is incredibly powerful, not to the extent that it's broken, but to the extent that I can definitely see them winning, if not putting the town on the extreme edge of losing. Even with the town's roles, the Mafia still has the largest advantage over them, with one of them being nightkill immune, two of them essentially being able to remove lynch votes, and one of them can steal the Doctor or the Shaman's ability, and I would imagine the ability of the Magmatic Spirit if it was used on him? Not sure how that works in rulings terms.

Unless I'm misunderstanding how the Lava Slime role works, the Mafia is still incredibly powerful in Sanct's game, and I've noticed this is something he tends to do in his games anyway. This is just something I think people need to consider before jumping onto the bandwagon of voting for his game because it's "good". Not trying to be a dick or influence anyone or anything, but I think this is something our Mafia community actually needs to realize before they vote for a game. Don't just vote for a game because you think it looks cool, actually do some thinking and figure out if something is going to be unbalanced, and you can actually voice your concerns about these so the gamemasters can see it. I have tried to stress that during my time as GM, and I hope the current GMs can try to reinforce that too. It's okay to give criticisms in the host signups.

I feel like this'll surprise some people, but I'm actually really thankful for this criticism. (I encourage more people to do this please, it'll make games generally better for everyone and games will generally turn out better)

I've noticed that I have a habit of making the mafia too powerful, and to an extent I've tried to negate that, but it really doesn't work when right after it I go all like "Huh wouldn't that role be neat, let's add it" and completely ruin the balance.
(Hint, that's why the lava slime is there). If people wouldn't mind, I'd like to rebalance this game a bit in terms of the mafia? I'll be consulting at least one of the game masters while doing it to make sure the balance doesn't stray too far in the other direction.

As for my failings as a host, I completely acknowledge and accept the fact that my hosting during M41 was absolutely atrocious, if you don't trust me after that I completely understand your lack of trust (If I was one of you I'd probably do everything in my power never let a person who hosted like that host ever again).

No offense taken, in fact I agree with most, if not all of your points.
Now, it'll probably take a bit before I can think through how the game itself is balanced, and I'd like permission to edit it with at least one of the discussing the game with me so we could sort everything out. If I can't do this, I don't want the game to be in the second part of the poll if it gets enough supporters either way, I would rather try balancing out the game and hosting it the next time I get the chance instead

[Danny]

No offense taken, in fact I agree with most, if not all of your points.
Now, it'll probably take a bit before I can think through how the game itself is balanced, and I'd like permission to edit it with at least one of the discussing the game with me so we could sort everything out. If I can't do this, I don't want the game to be in the second part of the poll if it gets enough supporters either way, I would rather try balancing out the game and hosting it the next time I get the chance instead

To be completely honest with you, but this is mostly my own judgment and not the ruling on the gamemasters, but I would say that editing your game while the poll is still going isn't allowed at all, in fact I believe that's what the rules are like anyway. Not trying to discourage you from hosting, but usually balance issues like this should be seen to by the gamemasters and the person submitting the game themselves before the poll starts up, because it could actually be unfair for someone to change their game while they're receiving votes, because this could really influence/shift the voting in a different direction, either away from or into your game.

[Valentine]

Yeah, I got word that I won't be allowed to do that so uh, just don't vote for my game, I'm not happy with it in it's current state and I'd like to improve it for next time.

[Julia Pseudo]

Yeah just want to be clear to everyone that altering your game in a gameplay-significant way after the poll has started is not allowed.

[Julia Pseudo]

Poll phase 2 is here!

Final phase 1 results:

Virus Alert - Doesntpostverymuch - 2 - 3%
Undead Chaos - thehelmetguy1 - 4 - 6%
Alignment Struggle - Nanaya Jacob - 3 - 5%
Decisions, Decisions - MosaicMario - 5 - 8%
Midnight on the Docks - Danny - 10 - 16%
Take It To The Limit - Pseudo - 5 - 8%
Melted Liquid - Sanct - 5 - 8%
The Ultimate Deception - Zeldamaster12 - 8 - 13%
Disco Inferno! - Cedur - 3 - 5%
Third Party Terror! - 116taj - 7 - 11%
Psychopathy Red - Witchking666 - 8 - 13%
ƚƨɒl ƨlɒɘbI on ɘɿɘʜW noiƚqɘɔnI bɘƨɿɘvɘЯ - MECHDRAGON777 - 4 - 6%

[TLtimelord]

FYI Danny's been waiting to host his game for over 2 years now.

MIDNIGHT
ON
THE
DOCKS
OR
ELSE

[116taj]

well my game is out now so

MIDNIGHT ON THE DOCKS FOR THE WIN

[PersonNamedUser]

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[Noodle]

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