Will SMBX eventually die?

[Quantix]

I also should write a guide at some point as to SMBX's history (especially with the C&D and related stuff) to clear up the misinformation.

Didn't Pseudo write something like this on a separate thread some time ago?

[Knux]

Here's how I would organize users, which is based mostly on the different forums and is more like groups instead of generations:

- People who were an active part of the original forums (Quill, Valtteri, Kyasarin)
- People who were on Knux's Forums in its early days before the closing of the original forums (Knux, speedy, Donutyoshi)
- People who were an active part of TrekWeb (TLtimelord, FallingSnow, me)
- People who were active at Knux's in 2011 as it became the central location for the SMBX community (Enjl, Chad, Linik)
- People who were active on NSMBX (Magician, Natsu, Blue Toad)
- People who were active on SMBXR (Mable/Sinem/etc., Kep (?), Cloud)
- People who were an active part of the SMBX forums in 2014 (zlakerboy357, Zeldamaster12, Spinda)

...and the rest (from 2014 onward, really) is more up to interpretation, and of course there were a lot more people in each group and many of us overlap. I definitely recognize the recent spur of active members that joined in the last 6-8 months (practicalshorty014, Ryaa, etc.).

And then we can also consider groups that are/were friends or shared a common characteristic, such as the "DOTA crew" (Nien, qig, Ragont, etc.), the people who (I think) came to SMBX from SRB2 (Kyasarin/Luminous, Vandarx, Conker), and probably others.

Long story short, everyone is important.

I also should write a guide at some point as to SMBX's history (especially with the C&D and related stuff) to clear up the misinformation.

I don't want anyone to think I was belittling anyone, that wasn't my intention. However Joey, your version of the story of SMBX is contradictive to what mines is. and I'm sure other people will argue about events. it's sad that the knuxforum wikia, despite being a joke, actually had a rough timeline of events.

[Shadow Yoshi]

I also should write a guide at some point as to SMBX's history (especially with the C&D and related stuff) to clear up the misinformation.

Didn't Pseudo write something like this on a separate thread some time ago?

There was "The Story of SMBX" which was originally written by me, and then I think someone reposted it here.

I don't want anyone to think I was belittling anyone, that wasn't my intention. However Joey, your version of the story of SMBX is contradictive to what mines is. and I'm sure other people will argue about events. it's sad that the knuxforum wikia, despite being a joke, actually had a rough timeline of events.

Wasn't saying you belittled anyone, only saying that I think groups are better than generations. Not sure what you mean when you say it's contradictory, unless you're talking about "The Story of SMBX".

[Danny]

Wasn't Blue Toad more active on the original forums than he was on NSMBX, or am I thinking of a completely different user?

[TLtimelord]

In the 8 years I have been a part of this community, I have never felt it decline dramatically at any point. It dips on occasion but it's never been 'dead' or 'dying' as some people have put it. However, I have noticed that most people who are on these forums now are not the same as those back in 2009-12. Technically speaking, we are in the second generation of the SMBX community. I can barely name 10 members who have been here since day one.

Even though the second generation is the most active as of now, we're still seeing a fair amount of activity from the first generation users on the forum, like bossedit8 as you mentioned, Enjl, me (I do miss being called castlewars...), the admins (with the exception of ZM12) and MECHDRAGON777. The first generation still linger around, but as you said, their activity has diminished a lot to the point where it's almost impossible to tell due to people leaving. Despite being a first generation user, I've found that the second generation is quite friendly and nearly all of my friends on the forum are from the second generation, like The Thwomp King, arcade999 and MosaicMario, to name a few. This attitude could help propel the growth of the forums by encouraging new users to stay and feel welcome.

Lmao don't get cocky first generation is smb.org, second would be Knux/nsmbx and third and final would be Joey's. You're not in the original wave, buddy, don't pretend like you've been here since the beginning. That goes to like 4 people still active.

[aero]

It's an SMBX seniority battle episode.

[rimg]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/PVIQC ... mXnqQ=h900[/rimg]

[Artemis008]

It's an SMBX seniority battle episode.

[rimg]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/PVIQC ... mXnqQ=h900[/rimg]

[Julia Pseudo]

This is a pretty good categorization of users IMO. If you want to use fewer generations, I'd say that there are 3 broad generations of users, not just two: original forums/TrekWeb/early Knuxforums, Knux/NSMBX, and the current era of SMBX.org. There are also the users who originally came from Cloud's forum to SMBX Revived, which is definitely a distinct crowd despite existing at the same time as Knuxforums and NSMBX.

[Danny]

In my opinion, you really can't section the community into generations, because people have had their stay and had their leave. While we have been through different forum iterations, especially ones that stand out more than others, nothing can really define the start and end of a generation clearly. Regardless of that, I don't think people need to use it to act superior to other users (which is something I've seen quite a fair bit of in my time here). Yeah, some of us have been around since the beginning and have stuck through until now, but I'm not sure how that makes us any better than anyone else, especially newer users.

I think instead of using this as an opportunity for us "veteran" users to act higher than newer ones, we should be forming bonds with the newer users that way we have someone to pass the torch to should the time come for that to happen, which may not be for a few years from now, but it's still something to consider.

[The Thwomp King]

In the 8 years I have been a part of this community, I have never felt it decline dramatically at any point. It dips on occasion but it's never been 'dead' or 'dying' as some people have put it. However, I have noticed that most people who are on these forums now are not the same as those back in 2009-12. Technically speaking, we are in the second generation of the SMBX community. I can barely name 10 members who have been here since day one.

Even though the second generation is the most active as of now, we're still seeing a fair amount of activity from the first generation users on the forum, like bossedit8 as you mentioned, Enjl, me (I do miss being called castlewars...), the admins (with the exception of ZM12) and MECHDRAGON777. The first generation still linger around, but as you said, their activity has diminished a lot to the point where it's almost impossible to tell due to people leaving. Despite being a first generation user, I've found that the second generation is quite friendly and nearly all of my friends on the forum are from the second generation, like The Thwomp King, arcade999 and MosaicMario, to name a few. This attitude could help propel the growth of the forums by encouraging new users to stay and feel welcome.

Not to be a stickler for this, but I was a first gen member as well considering I submitted a CC1 level, disappeared, then submitted a CC12 level. I was an active member of the Knux forums for a year or 2, but I took a 3-4 year hiatus from the forums until returning in 2015. So I mean take it as you will where I stand, but I've been around for a good while overall. Not trying to be a smart-ass on that mistake, but some friendly clarification.

But building on this topic of generations, there's no way there's only 2 generations of members in a span of 8 years. People come and go, but it really comes down to what members in a certain time period make an impact and how new they are when these big events happen. Like the adjustment in popularity from Knux forums to these forums is certainly a span of at least three eras: Knux, the transition between the two, and then now this forum, but even from there this forum itself we can say has a few drastic impacts that made the forums way different as time went by such as the creation of smbx2, the removal of level judges, or the short period I went online to see every leadership member had yoshi in their name.

Maybe those are too short of periods, but it's really hard in general to connect such large time-spans as two whole generations, heck it's difficult connecting anything as a generation.

But getting to the main topic, it's only natural that SMBX will die off. While we've held our own for so long and we got SMBX 2 hopefully being out of beta soon, but nothing last forever and we got enjoy the time we do have here while we can. You never know when that person you met on here or talked to on discord from these forums may suddenly disappear.

[HeroLinik]

Like the adjustment in popularity from Knux forums to these forums is certainly a span of at least three eras: Knux, the transition between the two, and then now this forum

It wasn't just Knux's site, SMBX Revived and this forum after the original forums dissolved, there were still offshoots that were just as popular like Cloud's forum and NSMBX. In fact, the transition period resulted from a merger of the two forums which only lasted for about five months or so, but at least they managed to squeeze in an official contest. For example, Kep, a well-known but sadly not around anymore member, started out on Cloud's forum, so according to your system, he wouldn't be in any of the eras, but it would technically be Knux's though, despite him not being a member there.

[The Thwomp King]

Like the adjustment in popularity from Knux forums to these forums is certainly a span of at least three eras: Knux, the transition between the two, and then now this forum

It wasn't just Knux's site, SMBX Revived and this forum after the original forums dissolved, there were still offshoots that were just as popular like Cloud's forum and NSMBX. In fact, the transition period resulted from a merger of the two forums which only lasted for about five months or so, but at least they managed to squeeze in an official contest. For example, Kep, a well-known but sadly not around anymore member, started out on Cloud's forum, so according to your system, he wouldn't be in any of the eras, but it would technically be Knux's though, despite him not being a member there.

See I never knew about these other forums since this was during my absence, but as I said earlier it's hard to truly label a generation in all of this. The idea I had was only an idea, not the lore I conjured up summarized into what I said was three generations. That was an example from my limited knowledge of the forums I've been involved with. If anything your point proves even more that we shouldn't bother trying to label different generations.

[timocomsmbx2345]

it will never dieunless Nintendo takes it down again

[PixelPest]

it will never die unless Nintendo takes it down again

:MEGA FACEPALM:

Everything dies in time but I feel like SMBX will last for a good deal longer. SMBX2 has a good outlook being open-source and a lot of dedicated people working on it

[Mable]

This game will kill smbx totally

[Artemis008]

This game will kill smbx totally

WTF Nintendo, we said we don't want another federation force.

[Mable]

It's what we always wanted? Mario with GUNS finally we can shoot in a mario game?

[timocomsmbx2345]

it will never die unless Nintendo takes it down again

:MEGA FACEPALM:

Everything dies in time but I feel like SMBX will last for a good deal longer. SMBX2 has a good outlook being open-source and a lot of dedicated people working on it

Dat Boi (frog on a unicycle) died because it's not that amazing.
Grand dad is dead and the onl person that's trying is SilvaGunner

[Snessy the duck]

it will never die unless Nintendo takes it down again

:MEGA FACEPALM:

Everything dies in time but I feel like SMBX will last for a good deal longer. SMBX2 has a good outlook being open-source and a lot of dedicated people working on it

Dat Boi (frog on a unicycle) died because it's not that amazing.
Grand dad is dead and the onl person that's trying is SilvaGunner

Memes =/= Mario fangame

[Mable]

Grand dad wasn't even a real meme, but people like to expand stuff.