Mafia Discussion

[TLtimelord]

FallingSnow no one in the game cares anymore can we just end it.

[Sevennights]

Really, we can't continue it anymore which is sad. It is a good game, just the people that are there are inactive as hell. Really people we need to pmay the game or just don't sign up at all. Maybe we need small games for now as people won't do much, as we see people left, was banned, or people were just interested anymore.

[underFlo]

I think the inactivity might also have another reason besides the game's length.

The players remaining are RoundPiplup, RudeGuy07, TNTtimelord and Waddle Derp. 2 of then are people that tend to lurk a lot, Waddle Derp seems to have kinda vanished lately and TNT has gotten tired of it which I can understand tbh.

Not from the perspective from someone wanting to win over all things, but from someone wanting to enjoy Mafia: I would've preferred if people like ZM12 or Pseudo would've stayed alive instead of getting lynched.

This forum either needs to reconsider its lynching habits or inactivity has to be punished stricter. That's because the Mafia will probably kill off active players because they'd be more helpful to the town. If the town also kill active players without any evidence really, it only hurts them more because the players that remain like this are mostly inactive. It especially hurts if you know that you might've survived a lot longer if you remained really inactive.

But of course, lynching away inactives isn't the perfect solution. So, what should we do then? It's simple, the game host/Game Masters have to do something about it. Inactive players should be reminded to be active, and if they stay a number of days without any activity, they get subbed (as well as likely punished). Of course, this also brings a problem: Do we even have enough players to do that? Sadly, no, at the current level of activity most players seem to be at (I'd say the only really active players we have atm are Pseudo, ZM, Mivi at times, TNT, FallingSnow and me, maybe I'm forgetting someone but these seem to be the most active players, imo most of the others either rarely play (like Joey) or are inactive in the games they play in (people like glitch4, HenryRichard etc.).

That's why I'd say we'd go for smaller, shorter games for now until we have enough players to host bigger games. Another idea would be having more time between games so people won't get too much Mafia. Lastly, if we do have big games, they should be voted on by the Game Masters alone and have some kind of gimmick or be themed after ssomething, like a game series etc.

[Zeldamaster12]

ToS forums is a huge forum for Mafia. Maybe we could invite some of them over here to play Mafia with us? That's what we done on Krazykat's forum.

I do agree, we really don't have any players nowadays, and we also have those players like glitch4 that sign up every game but never participate. Hell, inactivity was the whole reason we lost M16, when The Wizard of Off didn't send in the deciding lynch vote to lynch off Ragont due to his inactivity, leading to the Town losing over a knife-in-the-box lynch.

I do agree that we could try out smaller Mafia games. It could even be a new gimmick for a couple host signups, where we submit smaller games (maybe around 10-15 players?). I just don't think we have enough dedicated people nowadays to really do big games with up to 20 players.

[Julia Pseudo]

Yeah your plan sounds pretty good Nickname. It's really late now, I'll probably post a better response than this tomorrow sorry.

Also Zeldamaster what are the ToS forums? This may be a stupid question; I apologize in advance.

[underFlo]

Afaik ToS means Tower of Salem which is variation on Mafia where everyone has a power role iirc.

[MacheTheFerret]

I think the inactivity might also have another reason besides the game's length.

The players remaining are RoundPiplup, RudeGuy07, TNTtimelord and Waddle Derp. 2 of then are people that tend to lurk a lot, Waddle Derp seems to have kinda vanished lately and TNT has gotten tired of it which I can understand tbh.

Not from the perspective from someone wanting to win over all things, but from someone wanting to enjoy Mafia: I would've preferred if people like ZM12 or Pseudo would've stayed alive instead of getting lynched.

This forum either needs to reconsider its lynching habits or inactivity has to be punished stricter. That's because the Mafia will probably kill off active players because they'd be more helpful to the town. If the town also kill active players without any evidence really, it only hurts them more because the players that remain like this are mostly inactive. It especially hurts if you know that you might've survived a lot longer if you remained really inactive.

But of course, lynching away inactives isn't the perfect solution. So, what should we do then? It's simple, the game host/Game Masters have to do something about it. Inactive players should be reminded to be active, and if they stay a number of days without any activity, they get subbed (as well as likely punished). Of course, this also brings a problem: Do we even have enough players to do that? Sadly, no, at the current level of activity most players seem to be at (I'd say the only really active players we have atm are Pseudo, ZM, Mivi at times, TNT, FallingSnow and me, maybe I'm forgetting someone but these seem to be the most active players, imo most of the others either rarely play (like Joey) or are inactive in the games they play in (people like glitch4, HenryRichard etc.).

That's why I'd say we'd go for smaller, shorter games for now until we have enough players to host bigger games. Another idea would be having more time between games so people won't get too much Mafia. Lastly, if we do have big games, they should be voted on by the Game Masters alone and have some kind of gimmick or be themed after ssomething, like a game series etc.

Are you forgetting about me?

Anyways, I agree with this post entirely. However, it should also be remembered that this is mainly happening because the saboteur is SO DAMN UNDERPOWERED! Seriously, if he could kill more often, the game might already be over, and we all go along with our business. I have no idea how that role was approved in the first place.

[Mivixion]

Afaik ToS means Tower of Salem which is variation on Mafia where everyone has a power role iirc.

*Town of Salem not Tower but yeah p much accurate

[Julia Pseudo]

Ah, thanks to both of you.

[Zeldamaster12]

No, it's Tower of Salem.

[Mivixion]

No, it's Tower of Salem.

No, it's not.

[Zeldamaster12]

I guess you're right. Must've read it wrong lol

[Mivixion]

lol

Anyway... The game ended woohoo RudeGuy should get a medal for ending it.

[HeroOfRhyme]

Now I can make your lives terrible in the next one. B)

[Shadow Yoshi]

Anybody interested in playing Lone Wolf for M21?

[underFlo]

I'd be up for it, it'd be a neat change.

[MacheTheFerret]

I'd be up for it, it'd be a neat change.

I second this. We need something unique for once.

[Sevennights]

I second this. We need something unique for once.

I third this... so let just go already abd do it... people may come up with new ideas after...

[Hyperme]

more mafia is always good.

Although in this case it's technically Cult.

[Zeldamaster12]

I'm down. I've wanted to play that game since you first posted it.