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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Day 5

Postby Julia Pseudo » Mon May 29, 2017 2:24 am

hey guys mech was green btw, as seen beforehand in the first post

sorry i didn't mention that in the phase transition earlier, i was in a huge rush when i wrote that

apologies to all

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Day 5

Postby Black Mamba » Mon May 29, 2017 2:39 am

Zeldamaster12 wrote: I also have suspicion on Uzendayo. The fact that he repeated almost word for word what Cedur said in his recent post makes me think they are working together. He's been rather inactive this game, mostly only showing up to vote. If Cedur is lynched and flips red, I would definitely consider Uzendayo to be Mafia.
To be completely honest with you, I didn't read Cedur's post when I wrote mine. I wouldn't have posted it otherwise. I've been trying to be more active, but since I can really get on here once a day, I can't really post that much. That's why I'm only here for the votes for the most part. I can see why my posts could look suspicious, especially the one with Cedur, but I assure you its all just a misunderstanding.

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Day 5

Postby Cedur » Mon May 29, 2017 3:17 am

Zeldamaster12 wrote:Pseudo didn't send me my inspection results for some reason, but I think it's safe to say I was roleblocked again.

I'm voting for Cedur. The entire game, I've been feeling bad vibes from him. If he were town, don't you think he would've been targeted last night instead of Mech, since he got a red lynched off? If Cedur was town, he would be the biggest threat to the Mafia aside from me, although they know I'm being protected every night.
First, you said on discord that if you were roleblocked, you would take that as an incrimination for me because you wanted to inspect me. That's just bait.

The mafia's very first threat is the doctor, since they cannot afford to have a failed nightkill, and obviously they knew I'm not the doctor since you said you wanted to inspect me. They wanted to kill someone who was both looking very innocent, and a potential doctor, not someone who was put in the suspicion list and therefore a potential target for mislynch.
Zeldamaster12 wrote:He wouldn't be panicking if he had people defending him, and even then, it didn't seem like he was panicking in the first place.

I believe 100% that he was the miller and the fact that Cedur pushed hard for his lynching makes me suspect him, and maybe even you for basically reiterating everything he said.
You put too much assertion into this, and you should keep a potential bussing in mind. I went for thg1 because I had bad vibes from him myself, and his late behaviour just fit into it. It should really be asserted that he was mafia. I wasn't a devil's advocate, I was trying to find reasonable suspicions. The KoE bandwagon was just extremely ridiculous so I tried something to balance it out, and in a situation without good leads, the only thing I could have gone for was ShadowStar.

Both Spinda and me were not feeling safe with the lynch of Mega, because hearing about a secret sheriff claiming to someone unconfirmed was just super awkward (and you made it up all yourself in the end). I wasn't feeling well about it because there was no actual dirt on Mega's side, but he flipped red, so the sheriff was confirmed. Spinda might have had a different motive to be extra skeptical about it, so I thought that maybe he was the disguiser, but I think he's now looking good and I never felt confident enough to vote him anyway; thg1 turned out to be a lot better candidate for disguiser for me, looking at his own inspection bait.

I vote TLtimelord, I had a good feeling about him for the entire game but suddenly bootlicking ZM and agreeing on his (pretty wrongheaded) assertions lynched looks very awful. I'm also still aware of ShadowStar.

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Day 5

Postby Zeldamaster12 » Mon May 29, 2017 3:49 am

Cedur wrote:First, you said on discord that if you were roleblocked, you would take that as an incrimination for me because you wanted to inspect me. That's just bait.
It was a dumb plan that I didn't put too much thought into, so take that with a grain of salt. TNT told me the big downside of the plan, so I disregarded it.
Cedur wrote:The mafia's very first threat is the doctor, since they cannot afford to have a failed nightkill, and obviously they knew I'm not the doctor since you said you wanted to inspect me. They wanted to kill someone who was both looking very innocent, and a potential doctor, not someone who was put in the suspicion list and therefore a potential target for mislynch.
Understandable, but they also know that as long as the consort is alive, my Sheriff ability is of no threat to them, so you'd think they'd be focusing on the better players rather than the doctor, as those have a higher chance of weeding out the Mafia. Without the better players, they can stay in the clear and the consort will keep roleblocking me. I know that if I were Mafia, I would definitely put that into perspective, and I'd think you would too.
Cedur wrote:You put too much assertion into this, and you should keep a potential bussing in mind. I went for thg1 because I had bad vibes from him myself, and his late behaviour just fit into it. It should really be asserted that he was mafia. I wasn't a devil's advocate, I was trying to find reasonable suspicions. The KoE bandwagon was just extremely ridiculous so I tried something to balance it out, and in a situation without good leads, the only thing I could have gone for was ShadowStar.
I'm not considering in the least bit that a bussing occurred because they have already lost two members, so at this point, a bussing would be an incredibly dumb move.

If someone mentioned a Sheriff claim, would you not want to see if that claim were true ASAP, especially if the supposed inspection result was red? If the inspection were to be a ruse and Megar happened to be blue, he would need to claim to prove the inspection was false. Yes, it'd suck if he were forced to claim, but better to claim than to have a blue lynched off and a fake Sheriff on the loose. If he were green, it was very early in the game so risking losing a Townie wouldn't be that big of a deal, and it'd be best to bite the bullet if it meant proving that the Sheriff claim was legit.

Yes I can see where SSX was suspucious in that scenario, as the bandwagon against Electriking was indeed ridiculous, but wouldn't you rather sway the votes to someone who is accused of being red via inspection over someone who could've just been a townie messing up by starting a bandwagon? Again, if someone claimed Sheriff and stated that they inspected a red, I'd want to see if the claim was legitimate ASAP.
Cedur wrote:I vote TLtimelord, I had a good feeling about him for the entire game but suddenly bootlicking ZM and agreeing on his (pretty wrongheaded) assertions lynched looks very awful. I'm also still aware of ShadowStar.
You are missing the part where TNT and I talked for a while on Discord. He didn't just immediately decide to agree with me, my previous post was where he really started seeing eye to eye with me. I believe I made good points, so agreeing with me shouldn't automatically equate to bootlicking.

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Day 5

Postby Cedur » Mon May 29, 2017 4:24 am

Zeldamaster12 wrote:Understandable, but they also know that as long as the consort is alive, my Sheriff ability is of no threat to them, so you'd think they'd be focusing on the better players rather than the doctor, as those have a higher chance of weeding out the Mafia. Without the better players, they can stay in the clear and the consort will keep roleblocking me. I know that if I were Mafia, I would definitely put that into perspective, and I'd think you would too.
Nevertheless you're a threat for them for being the town's confirmed mouthpiece and regaining your inspection ability if the consort gets lynched, and they can't risk attacking you until they killed the doctor, as you said earlier.
Zeldamaster12 wrote:You are missing the part where TNT and I talked for a while on Discord. He didn't just immediately decide to agree with me, my previous post was where he really started seeing eye to eye with me. I believe I made good points, so agreeing with me shouldn't automatically equate to bootlicking.
yeah, I reread stuff, nevertheless he's been following your footsteps, and if he's mafia, he does that to achieve a mislynch. He still called me a confirmed scum only bc your inspection was sabotaged and bc I was skeptical on the town's lynches except the one I started myself, so that's way over the top (I'll get to the part of mega later). Sanct's lynch was unquestioned anyway. Looking at the log, I think TNT could even be the consort himself.
Zeldamaster12 wrote:I'm not considering in the least bit that a bussing occurred because they have already lost two members, so at this point, a bussing would be an incredibly dumb move.
Maybe they have only lost Sanct before thg1 (this assuming mega was the miller), and even if they already lost two, the odds were already stacked against thg1 rather quickly. So, his teammates just payed attention to safe their own skin. (on a side note, TNT was also the last person to vote thg1).
Zeldamaster12 wrote:If someone mentioned a Sheriff claim, would you not want to see if that claim were true ASAP, especially if the supposed inspection result was red? If the inspection were to be a ruse and Megar happened to be blue, he would need to claim to prove the inspection was false. Yes, it'd suck if he were forced to claim, but better to claim than to have a blue lynched off and a fake Sheriff on the loose. If he were green, it was very early in the game so risking losing a Townie wouldn't be that big of a deal, and it'd be best to bite the bullet if it meant proving that the Sheriff claim was legit.
Spinda was the one who pointed out the things that could have gone wrong, and why it wasn't reliable enough, and I felt keen with his mindset (while not-so-much with his tone but whatever). It was just too weird of a bait, and in your announcing message, you immediately expressed (theatrical) skepticalness yourself, so I don't think you expected the town to go for it immediately.

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Day 5

Postby Doesntpostverymuch » Mon May 29, 2017 7:06 am

Zeldamaster12 wrote:Pseudo didn't send me my inspection results for some reason, but I think it's safe to say I was roleblocked again.

I'm voting for Cedur. The entire game, I've been feeling bad vibes from him. If he were town, don't you think he would've been targeted last night instead of Mech, since he got a red lynched off? If Cedur was town, he would be the biggest threat to the Mafia aside from me, although they know I'm being protected every night.

I also have suspicion on Uzendayo. The fact that he repeated almost word for word what Cedur said in his recent post makes me think they are working together. He's been rather inactive this game, mostly only showing up to vote. If Cedur is lynched and flips red, I would definitely consider Uzendayo to be Mafia.

My other main suspicion is against Noodle for reasons stated prior.

Regarding TNT, I still somewhat suspect him, although not as much as before, so I'm not gonna push for a lynch against him before I do everyone else I mentioned. I also stated that I thought Spinda was the disguiser due to pessimism about my Sheriff claim, as well as flipping green on inspection, but I don't feel too uneasy about him anymore. He's not completely off the hook yet, but I suspect him as much as I do TNT. Cedur agreed with me that Spinda was acting weird, so if Cedur flips red, I believe Spinda would be confirmed as town.

There's also the fact that SSX asked me what I'd do if I were roleblocked a night before I was roleblocked, but I honestly think it was just a coincidence. Again, I suspect him as much as I do TNT. Cedur contributed a lot in starting the lynch against SSX, so again, if Cedur is red, SSX would pretty much be confirmed.

Feel free to call me reckless for voting for Cedur, but a lot can come out of this. If Cedur flips red, which I'm almost positive he will, there is a lot that we can figure out and it will be a lot easier to figure out who's who. If he's green, then we simply move on to the next suspect, being Noodle, and we go from there.
normally when you'd get roleblocked in a game, the host would give you a message

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Day 5

Postby Cedur » Mon May 29, 2017 8:13 am

Pseudo forgot at first (she was in a rush), but ZM said on Discord that he now has gotten a roleblock message.

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Day 5

Postby Noodle » Mon May 29, 2017 9:31 am

Well, if the sheriff got bad vibes from Cedur, let it be.

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Day 5

Postby glitch4 » Mon May 29, 2017 2:22 pm

I'm not sure about all this discussion, but do you guys really think cedur is hiding something?

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Day 5

Postby Cedur » Mon May 29, 2017 2:48 pm

Okay everyone, take a look back at the thg1 lynch, and how he gave up himself without a defense. He has a 90%+ likelihood of being mafia, according to SSX on Discord. I actively lynched him, TNT made a mere late-bandwagon vote. If you want to accuse me, you have to affirm that thg1 is miller. ZM did that but there's really nothing pointing towards it. Please reconsider your votes, ZM and everyone else.

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Day 5

Postby glitch4 » Mon May 29, 2017 2:59 pm

I guess my vote goes to TLtimelord for some point.

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Day 5

Postby Zeldamaster12 » Mon May 29, 2017 3:04 pm

I'm not reconsidering my vote because of reasons I have already stated prior. If you flip green, then sure, I'll most likely vote for TNT tomorrow, but as it stands now, you being lynched can give us a lot of information we need.

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Day 5

Postby Doesntpostverymuch » Mon May 29, 2017 3:26 pm

this is why i don't post much, it's hard to comment.

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Day 5

Postby glitch4 » Mon May 29, 2017 4:09 pm

Zeldamaster12 wrote:I'm not reconsidering my vote because of reasons I have already stated prior. If you flip green, then sure, I'll most likely vote for TNT tomorrow, but as it stands now, you being lynched can give us a lot of information we need.
okay, but either if he's red or not, you should definetly vote for TLtimelord next day.

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Day 5

Postby Zeldamaster12 » Mon May 29, 2017 4:10 pm

If he's red, then TNT will pretty much be confirmed as town.

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Day 5

Postby ShadowStarX » Mon May 29, 2017 4:42 pm

Well I'm still kinda worried about the outcome but I'm going to put my vote on Cedur since his color would give us the most info in my eyes. I also wanna avoid a kitb as much as possible.

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Day 5

Postby Doesntpostverymuch » Mon May 29, 2017 4:46 pm

it was 3 to 2 with cedur being on the left.

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - End of Day 5

Postby Julia Pseudo » Tue May 30, 2017 12:58 am

DAY 5 has ended!

After much debate, Cedur was executed by burning at the stake... a stake made of cedar wood.
Cedur has died!

It is now NIGHT 6! Night 6 will end at about 5:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, May 30.

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Night 6

Postby Zeldamaster12 » Tue May 30, 2017 1:04 am

Thank fuck he was red

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Re: M40: The Last Mafia - Night 6

Postby Zeldamaster12 » Tue May 30, 2017 2:12 am

I think it's pretty much safe to say that Cedur was Mafia and thehelmetguy1 was miller. Best case scenario, Cedur was the consort, but we'll have to see at the start of the day phase when my inspection results are revealed.

I now feel a lot better about TNT, SSX, Spinda, and even Noodle (although one of them could be the doublespeaker but whatever). My largest suspicion is Uzendayo.


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