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Re: IT'S DICKS

Postby Karl Marx » Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:46 am

Pseudo-dino wrote:
Also I'm pretty sure that your comic is only supposed to have one topic.
Please stop making multiple topics for your comic

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Re: IT'S DICKS

Postby Hawkeyeone » Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:34 am

Uncle Sam wrote:
Pseudo-dino wrote:
Also I'm pretty sure that your comic is only supposed to have one topic.
Please stop making multiple topics for your comic
It's fine that this comic has its own single topic. If you won't comply, I will delete the post and end TIAOH. Your choice.

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Re: TIAOH- Serious Hawkeye

Postby Bomber57 » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:41 am

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Re: IT'S DICKS

Postby Panda » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:45 am

Hawkeyeone wrote:
Uncle Sam wrote: Please stop making multiple topics for your comic
It's fine that this comic has its own single topic. If you won't comply, I will delete the post and end TIAOH. Your choice.
What are you threatening Uncle Sam for? If you're making a bunch of topics for a comic you've made then you're just spamming the boards.
Also, very mature of you to give an ultimatum that he probably won't give a fuck about. Why should he have to comply to... whatever you're asking him to comply to..? for the sake of a comic?

Sorry to sound harsh but that's how it is.

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Re: IT'S DICKS

Postby Julia Pseudo » Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:25 pm

Hawkeyeone wrote:
Uncle Sam wrote:
Pseudo-dino wrote:
Also I'm pretty sure that your comic is only supposed to have one topic.
Please stop making multiple topics for your comic
It's fine that this comic has its own single topic. If you won't comply, I will delete the post and end TIAOH. Your choice.
Threats like this are really, really silly. Uncle Sam is a global moderator and you have been told multiple times that your comic can only have one topic. Ending TIAOH will hurt nobody but you, and it doesn't seem likely that you'd actually be interested in doing so. What the hell do you care how many topics your comic can have anyways? TAOK has the same limitation, and extra TAOK topics have been merged with the main one on this forum before.

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Re: IT'S DICKS

Postby aero » Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:42 pm

Hawkeyeone wrote:
Uncle Sam wrote:
Pseudo-dino wrote:
Also I'm pretty sure that your comic is only supposed to have one topic.
Please stop making multiple topics for your comic
It's fine that this comic has its own single topic. If you won't comply, I will delete the post and end TIAOH. Your choice.
It's actually not fine because it makes a mess of the Art Board with all your comics that people may not want to read. Naming the topics with names like "IT'S DICKS," and calling out Mods in a threatening way doesn't help your cause either btw. Just post your new comics here and everything will be cool.

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Re: TIAOH- Hawkeyeone smokes a line of Weed

Postby Hawkeyeone » Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:44 pm

I'm sorry for acting like a dickweed. I was angry at unclesam for repeatedly doing this to my topics where he would take them and simply connect them to the end of the topic where they would be eventually lost in a sea of posts. At least it didn't happen with the last one...

Hawkeyeone smokes a line of Weed uploaded.

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Re: TIAOH- Hawkeyeone smokes a line of Weed

Postby Karl Marx » Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:46 pm

Hawkeyeone wrote:I'm sorry for acting like a dickweed. I was angry at unclesam for repeatedly doing this to my topics where he would take them and simply connect them to the end of the topic where they would be eventually lost in a sea of posts. At least it didn't happen with the last one...

Hawkeyeone smokes a line of Weed uploaded.
Why would you be angry with me for doing my job when you could have just as easily complied with the explicitly given rule of one thread per comic?

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Re: TIAOH- Hawkeyeone smokes a line of Weed

Postby Hawkeyeone » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:18 am

Uncle Sam wrote:
Hawkeyeone wrote:I'm sorry for acting like a dickweed. I was angry at unclesam for repeatedly doing this to my topics where he would take them and simply connect them to the end of the topic where they would be eventually lost in a sea of posts. At least it didn't happen with the last one...

Hawkeyeone smokes a line of Weed uploaded.
Why would you be angry with me for doing my job when you could have just as easily complied with the explicitly given rule of one thread per comic?
Why would you downrep me for finally giving up and being genuinely sorry? Not cool, dude.

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Re: TIAOH- Hawkeyeone smokes a line of Weed

Postby Panda » Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:53 pm

Knux wrote:
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Again, why the re-post of an old comic?

I'll say this again because I don't think discussing serious matters over IRC always works. For starters, try "borrowing" ideas from other artists. Despite what some people say, plagiarism isn't that big a deal when it comes to a simple webcomic, just as long as it isn't blatantly obvious. Led Zeppelin (i know they are a band and not a comic series) "borrowed" a lot of blues riffs and they are one of the biggest bands on the planet.

When it comes to making The Adventures of Knux, I try to focus mostly on my own ideas, but I parody a lot of things. Parodying is perfectly fine, as long as its something everyone is familiar with. For example, I parodied the Paper Mario series in The Legendary Emrals, and that is regarded as one of the best AOK serials of all time. However, when I decided to parody Red Dwarf with SMBX 4014, only one person understood the references I was making. Yet, somehow, it was still funny to those who hadn't even seen them?
Take Family Guy's Star Wars parody for example. That is funny even to those who haven't seen George Lucas' films. So my advice here is to try and make a parody of something we're all familiar with (maybe an Ocarina of Time parody?), and still make it funny to those who haven't even heard of the Zelda series.

Another thing you should acknowledge is that your humour should evolve over-time. TAOK started out as utter nonsense. While it still is a bit nonsensical at times, it's still funny because new jokes and gimmicks are being added all the time. I recently did the Sammy joke, which lasted for a couple of episodes, and now he hardly appears, because it's no longer funny. It was funny the first couple of times, but things get old, and you have to start looking for new ways to make your audience chuckle.

TIAOH does have the good occasional episode, but recent ones such as TV is Stupid just suck. A good question to ask is "what's the joke here?" but an even better one would be "why am I asking what the joke means?". I have a feeling there may be some sort of inside joke here, or some reaction image here. That doesn't work, trust me.
Of course, that is hypocritical of me to say because when it comes to TAOK, Valtteri tends to make episodes which focus largely on inside jokes, and then nobody but him and some other user understand them.

Just remember that although a comic may be funny and understandable to you, doesn't mean other users see it the same way. Make the point of the overall joke more obvious, but still somewhat subtle.
Kinda like the Simpsons do. Watch a couple of episodes before making more episodes. In your recent episode, Serious Hawkeye, I don't get it.
The point I'm trying to make here is that nobody gets the joke.

You should also try reading some more Calvin & Hobbes books more.
^^^ Bless this post. Now, time for my own criticism.

Hawkeye, another thing you could do is show your plan or sketch for the comic to some people so they can tell you whether it's funny or not. That way they can suggest improvements or point out things that would just get you criticism from users both on here and your forums. It DOES help. I even get others to suggest the plot of the comic for me to draw, because I know that if I made up the plot myself, it wouldn't be funny. It doesn't hurt to listen to others, man.

Another problem is the speech boxes and the space between each panel. The speech boxes are so consuming. They take up a lot of space in your comic so it just throws the composition of the panel off entirely. I know you say "I change it if I don't think it looks good", but often your own opinion isn't one that counts on how other people will perceive things. Fr example, you can look at a tree and tell other that you think it's a dog, but they know it's a god damn tree. Do you see my point?
Having too much speech isn't a good idea too since comics are supposed to be easy to read, not a story. Generally, you can split up a speech into more panels to show more emotion, which is the better option.
About the paneling, I don't think you put any space between them except a thick black line, do you? (I can't check right now). That also throws off a lot of composition and makes it seem super cramped. You're placing panels so close together that we can't separate the images from each other. That's just how it is, and most often the "I think it's okay" argument doesn't work against a bunch of people who disagree.

It's also ideal to stick to ONE plot in the strip you're doing. I've read some of your comics and they just... don't make any sense. The plot is all over the place and characters are sometimes introduced who don't really advance the comic. The reason TAOK has improved a lot over time because the plot makes much more sense now than it did, say, Compare Season 1 — 3 and Season 7 and see which you like better. On that note, since I joined the community Knux has realised some people may not understand certain jokes, so he's changed it so that people will still be able to find the comics funny. An example of this is the episode with bossedit8 and the sugar. I don't remember the name.

Sorry for writing a shit ton, but that's pretty much why you're getting criticism, and you're LUCKY to get suggestions on how to improve. Don't take it for granted and shrug it off with an attitude like you have recently.

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Re: TIAOH- Hawkeyeone smokes a line of Weed

Postby Hawkeyeone » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:14 pm

Intellectual-Panda wrote:
Knux wrote:
Spoiler: show
Again, why the re-post of an old comic?

I'll say this again because I don't think discussing serious matters over IRC always works. For starters, try "borrowing" ideas from other artists. Despite what some people say, plagiarism isn't that big a deal when it comes to a simple webcomic, just as long as it isn't blatantly obvious. Led Zeppelin (i know they are a band and not a comic series) "borrowed" a lot of blues riffs and they are one of the biggest bands on the planet.

When it comes to making The Adventures of Knux, I try to focus mostly on my own ideas, but I parody a lot of things. Parodying is perfectly fine, as long as its something everyone is familiar with. For example, I parodied the Paper Mario series in The Legendary Emrals, and that is regarded as one of the best AOK serials of all time. However, when I decided to parody Red Dwarf with SMBX 4014, only one person understood the references I was making. Yet, somehow, it was still funny to those who hadn't even seen them?
Take Family Guy's Star Wars parody for example. That is funny even to those who haven't seen George Lucas' films. So my advice here is to try and make a parody of something we're all familiar with (maybe an Ocarina of Time parody?), and still make it funny to those who haven't even heard of the Zelda series.

Another thing you should acknowledge is that your humour should evolve over-time. TAOK started out as utter nonsense. While it still is a bit nonsensical at times, it's still funny because new jokes and gimmicks are being added all the time. I recently did the Sammy joke, which lasted for a couple of episodes, and now he hardly appears, because it's no longer funny. It was funny the first couple of times, but things get old, and you have to start looking for new ways to make your audience chuckle.

TIAOH does have the good occasional episode, but recent ones such as TV is Stupid just suck. A good question to ask is "what's the joke here?" but an even better one would be "why am I asking what the joke means?". I have a feeling there may be some sort of inside joke here, or some reaction image here. That doesn't work, trust me.
Of course, that is hypocritical of me to say because when it comes to TAOK, Valtteri tends to make episodes which focus largely on inside jokes, and then nobody but him and some other user understand them.

Just remember that although a comic may be funny and understandable to you, doesn't mean other users see it the same way. Make the point of the overall joke more obvious, but still somewhat subtle.
Kinda like the Simpsons do. Watch a couple of episodes before making more episodes. In your recent episode, Serious Hawkeye, I don't get it.
The point I'm trying to make here is that nobody gets the joke.

You should also try reading some more Calvin & Hobbes books more.
^^^ Bless this post. Now, time for my own criticism.

Hawkeye, another thing you could do is show your plan or sketch for the comic to some people so they can tell you whether it's funny or not. That way they can suggest improvements or point out things that would just get you criticism from users both on here and your forums. It DOES help. I even get others to suggest the plot of the comic for me to draw, because I know that if I made up the plot myself, it wouldn't be funny. It doesn't hurt to listen to others, man.

Another problem is the speech boxes and the space between each panel. The speech boxes are so consuming. They take up a lot of space in your comic so it just throws the composition of the panel off entirely. I know you say "I change it if I don't think it looks good", but often your own opinion isn't one that counts on how other people will perceive things. Fr example, you can look at a tree and tell other that you think it's a dog, but they know it's a god damn tree. Do you see my point?
Having too much speech isn't a good idea too since comics are supposed to be easy to read, not a story. Generally, you can split up a speech into more panels to show more emotion, which is the better option.
About the paneling, I don't think you put any space between them except a thick black line, do you? (I can't check right now). That also throws off a lot of composition and makes it seem super cramped. You're placing panels so close together that we can't separate the images from each other. That's just how it is, and most often the "I think it's okay" argument doesn't work against a bunch of people who disagree.

It's also ideal to stick to ONE plot in the strip you're doing. I've read some of your comics and they just... don't make any sense. The plot is all over the place and characters are sometimes introduced who don't really advance the comic. The reason TAOK has improved a lot over time because the plot makes much more sense now than it did, say, Compare Season 1 — 3 and Season 7 and see which you like better. On that note, since I joined the community Knux has realised some people may not understand certain jokes, so he's changed it so that people will still be able to find the comics funny. An example of this is the episode with bossedit8 and the sugar. I don't remember the name.

Sorry for writing a shit ton, but that's pretty much why you're getting criticism, and you're LUCKY to get suggestions on how to improve. Don't take it for granted and shrug it off with an attitude like you have recently.
Thanks for the advice. I am working on the next TIAOH episode at the moment.

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Re: TIAOH- Hawkeyeone smokes a line of Weed

Postby Hawkeyeone » Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:14 pm

Knux wrote:
Hawkeyeone wrote:I am working on the next TIAOH episode at the moment.
Make sure it's a good one.
It kinda relates to something right now. It may not be perfect, but it's humor is a little different that the episodes I've been making recently. Just a little experiment.

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Re: TIAOH- Hawkeyeone smokes a line of Weed

Postby Hawkeyeone » Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:13 pm

Coming soon!
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Re: TIAOH- Hawkeyeone smokes a line of Weed

Postby Harraya » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:01 am

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TIAOH is a comic about stuff.

New Series

Episode 61- A Grand World Record:
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Fun Fact: In 2012, a poll for TIAOH episode ideas was held at the NSMBX forums. One of the poll options was "Hawkeyeone beats a world record". When I deleted the poll, SilverDeoxys563 restated that he chose that option in a comment he made regarding the deleted poll, and this episode was made with him in mind :)
Episode 62- Mysteries are Stupid:
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Fun Fact: This is the first TIAOH to not have the size of 1000x1000.
Episode 63- The Anatomy of a User:
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Episode 64- TV is Stupid:
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Episode 65- A Better Box Art:
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Episode 66- Hawkeyeone and his magical Windows 95
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Episode 67- Serious Hawkeye
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Fun Fact: The title of this episode is similar to the title of the Steven Universe episode Serious Steven. Both involve the main characters navigating a maze, except this episode has significantly less maze stuff. Serious Steven is a available on YouTube, usually in edited form to avoid copyright strikes.
Re-release comics from original series:

Bomb Jr.(original release- March 13, 2013):
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Attack of the Kitchen Spambots parts 1 to 4(original release- May-June 2013):
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Hawkeyeone smokes a line of Weed(original release- June 23, 2013)
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The Hawkfather(original release- September 2, 2013):
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Re: TIAOH- Hawkeyeone the Cowboy

Postby Hawkeyeone » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:12 am

Hawkeyeone the Cowboy uploaded.

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DICKS ON THE MOON

Postby Hawkeyeone » Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:36 am

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Re: TIAOH and other comics- DICKS ON THE MOON

Postby Vinyl Scratch » Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:01 am

Holy shit I actually chuckled at that
Hawk you deserve an award m8

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Re: TIAOH and other comics- DICKS ON THE MOON

Postby Quill » Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:05 am

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Re: TIAOH and other comics- DICKS ON THE MOON

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Re: TIAOH and other comics- DICKS ON THE MOON

Postby Megar » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:21 am

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