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PixelPest wrote:

Witchking666 wrote:This game has too much going on and most of the abilities are useless either way.

There may be a lot going on but everything is there for a reason. Each of the teams has a killing ability with a contingency and a reward for killing the head of another team, along with a conversion ability as well as two other abilities--in most cases one of which is to help get team members together and one is used as an asset to the team altogether.

Witchking666 wrote:It is very complicated because of the cultists already and I do not think that it is wise to have both a conversion mechanic and a lot of abilities.

Sure it's a complex game but everything there is in there for a reason and each team follows a specific structure. It's built to be an interesting game and less-focused on a single mechanic such that it can play in a fun way. Each of the primary three teams have two roles that are the same throughout and then two helper abilities that each serve a purpose; I don't see any that are apparently useless. Just because it has a lot of abilities doesn't mean it's unreasonable and because of its structured-ness it isn't too hard to understand.

Witchking666 wrote:My suggestion would be to keep the cultists and the killers and to make the other two members of each team not have an ability. If you want you can make it so the killing role or the wannabe can inspect but I doubt it's truly necessary.

I don't want to make the Overlord abilities OP and then have the team screwed over when they are killed which is why I don't want to give them an inspection ability. By spreading out abilities across the team it gives each member a specific purpose, makes all of the roles in the game fun to play, and keeps the teams relatively balanced even when a player has been killed.

Witchking666 wrote:Those TPs are fucking cool though. Never seen anything like it before.

Thanks.

Witchking666 wrote:The killing roles themselves need clarification. "Can kill a player each Night, as long as they haven't killed on the previous Night." Does that mean they can only kill every other night? Explain please.

That's literally what it means; I don't see how it needs further explanation. You killed the previous Night--you can't kill on the current Night. It's just part of what I used to balance the game so that there aren't three killing abilities plus the chance for a player to be killed if targeted by two Converters. This basically makes it so that each of the Overlords can only kill every other Night if they choose, however the are not forced directly via role description to kill on even or odd Nights, etc.

Basically to sum it up this game gives every role an ability to make it more fun so that no one has a bum role to promote activity and each role has a specific purpose as being an asset to the team (either to help bring the team together or to try to screw up another team). The Overlords cannot kill every Night to balance things out and the use of giving every role an ability is that it doesn't totally screw up the team when one player is killed from it

MECHDRAGON777 wrote:

ShadowStarX wrote:Two Towns, One Problem
- 15 players
- 7v7v1
- No team contact
- Cardflip

Cold Town - Wins by eliminating the hot town and the serial killer.
Sheriff: Can inspect a player each night to learn their color.
Doctor: Can protect a player from nightkills each night. Can self-protect once.
Vigilante: May kill a player during the night.
Townsperson
Townsperson
Townsperson
Millwright: Thinks they're a regular townsperson.

Hot Town - Wins by eliminating the cold town and the serial killer.
Sheriff: Can inspect a player each night to learn their color.
Doctor: Can protect a player from nightkills each night.
Vigilante: May kill a player during the night.
Townsperson
Townsperson
Townsperson
Millwright: Thinks they're a regular townsperson.

The Murderer - Wins by being the last one or one of the last two standing.
Serial Killer: Can kill a player of his choice each night. Immune to nightkills.

Witchking666 wrote:Very interesting concept, Approved!

Okay, we can all pack up and go home, we know this game will win.

Witchking666 wrote:You would so best to remove the cultist and never think of it again.

Paper wrote:

Witchking666 wrote:You would so best to remove the cultist and never think of it again.

First of all, rude, and secondly, you didn't even want to possibly suggest a nerf instead of blatantly asking for it to be removed entirely?

I'm definitely gonna rebalance the bonuses, but please explain to me exactly why the only option for the Cultist is for him to be removed without an ambiguous "he's overpowered, he's a garunteed win."

Witchking666 wrote:They are literally able to steal a team member every night. And if you would nerf it to only recruit every other night it becomes really weak. The reason why I didnt suggest a nerf is because I cannot think of one that doesn't significantly tip the scales in favor of or against the cultist. The only thing I can think of that would make it more fair would be removing the buffs from the cultist and just make it so converted members do not get an ability.

Witchking666 wrote: The Cultist is however still significantly overpowered. There is no need to remove the entire role since most of the OP-ness originates from the buffs anyway. The part where a second cult leader can be chosen is insanely strong. I would advice you to remove the upgrading gimmick from the cultist and just change it into a regular cultist that wins once the cult contains over 50% of the remaining players.

Warlock wrote:When does the poll go up?

MECHDRAGON777 wrote:If my game wins for any ungodly reason, I want another poll if the third party should be added back or not.

PixelPest wrote:

MECHDRAGON777 wrote:If my game wins for any ungodly reason, I want another poll if the third party should be added back or not.

I don't think that's necessary. Two GMs recommended it and you can get some other opinions if you want but you need to make your decision on whether or not you're adding it back in before the poll goes up

Paper, from the Discord wrote:my game's cultist can only convert every even numbered night now
to those who were giving feedback on the host signup thread

Paper wrote:

Paper, from the Discord wrote:my game's cultist can only convert every even numbered night now
to those who were giving feedback on the host signup thread

Sanct wrote:I should just troll everyone and submit a game right now

Electriking wrote:

Paper wrote:

Paper, from the Discord wrote:my game's cultist can only convert every even numbered night now
to those who were giving feedback on the host signup thread

Yeah, that makes him very under powered