M38 TAKE TWO: The Mafia Returns (TOWN VICTORY)

[ShadowStarX]

> Pseudo puts Night 1 into the title

setup phase isn't over, is it?

I put Night 1 in the title.
viewtopic.php?p=268653#p268653

Alright, so since I obviously was asleep, this proves me to be a normal townsperson pretty much.

Ness-Wednesday has also been online since 23:37 in CET. (so 17:37 in EST) so he's also confirmed townsperson.

[ShadowStarX]

I put Night 1 in the title.
viewtopic.php?p=268653#p268653

Alright, so since I obviously was asleep, this proves me to be a normal townsperson pretty much.

Ness-Wednesday has also been online since 23:37 in CET. (so 17:37 in EST) so he's also confirmed townsperson.

*has also not

[Cedur]

Alright blues, claim to me please (SSX and Mega already agree on Discord that I'm innocent).

[PixelPest]

Alright, so since I obviously was asleep, this proves me to be a normal townsperson pretty much.

Ness-Wednesday has also been online since 23:37 in CET. (so 17:37 in EST) so he's also confirmed townsperson.

*has also not

This isn't a safe thing to assume. What about hidden users?

[ShadowStarX]

Ness-Wednesday has also been online since 23:37 in CET. (so 17:37 in EST) so he's also confirmed townsperson.

*has also not

This isn't a safe thing to assume. What about hidden users?

I believe those have a dash saying when they were online last time.

[PixelPest]

I think this assumption could screw over the Town really quickly if we make the assumption that neither of them were on as a hidden user and/or messaged Danny with their role choice through Discord

[PixelPest]

*has also not

This isn't a safe thing to assume. What about hidden users?

I believe those have a dash saying when they were online last time.

But did you check? I've often used Hidden User accounts when dealing with stuff like this in the past so I don't think we should go down this path rn

[Cedur]

PixelPest, you should know my timezone and that I'm not a nightywatchman (the recent days I've stayed up longer until 11 or 12 PM due to bachelor thesis work but still I was in bed already when the reroll happened, I went offline around 10:50 PM CET)

[kr4k1n]

I also went to bed and barely missed the reroll, pretty early too(around 6:00 MDT).

[PixelPest]

And there's no way anyone here can prove that either of those claims are true. We don't need to be desperate for an alliance rn, it's only Night 1. Let's not dig ourselves into a hole we can't get out of this early in the game by trusting facts that can't be confirmed by others and completely screw ourselves over

[Cedur]

<ShadowStarX> 12:44 PM um shroom are you planning to lead the alliance
<Selena> 12:44 PM you said he's confirmed innocent?
<ShadowStarX> 12:44 PM he was asleep during the setup phase
which means he didn't need to pick a role
<Selena> 12:44 PM fair enough, actually
<ShadowStarX> 12:44 PM and the only choiceless roles are townies

Night 1 started at 5:18 AM. I woke up three hours later. I wasn't able to say a single thing on the reroll stuff. Still don't think I'm confirmed town?

[PixelPest]

No. As I explained with hidden user accounts and the fact that word-of-mouth is not reliable

[Thehelmetguy1]

How unlucky. Was the cause of the re-roll from Ness-wednesday revealing his role?

no it is in fact a curse
every time you get townie there will be a reroll, based on SSX's conspiration. And I think it is true.

Are you saying the only rerolls we get is when I am blue or red? That is hard to believe. I have played to role of a townie before just like this time. It looks like I was right on guessing RSuper was a Mafia member last game as well as Supershroom. I doubt they are mafia again, but still. Let's hope we figure something out fast before we get annailated . (I Think there is an "h" in that last word.)

I hope you knew that was a joke.

[ShadowStarX]

Shroom - Today at 2:38 PM
why is PixelPest so paranoid
ShadowStarX - Today at 2:39 PM
maybe he really liked M34 idk
Shroom - Today at 2:43 PM
he won't believe me anything so please assist me
at this point I already have a scumread on him
ShadowStarX - Today at 2:44 PM
well I also consider that weird
like, what's wrong with finding confirmed innocents
aside from singling them out for the mafia unintentionally
Shroom - Today at 2:44 PM
he's bringing up really awkward scenarios to say that I would not be innocent
ShadowStarX - Today at 2:45 PM
but don't hidden users have a dash?
Waddle - Today at 2:45 PM
I don't think so
ShadowStarX - Today at 2:47 PM
memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1079
by that I mean - Last Active: -
Selena - Today at 2:56 PM
shroom who are you talking about
ShadowStarX - Today at 2:57 PM
Shroom - Today at 2:38 PM
why is PixelPest so paranoid
ShadowStarX - Today at 2:39 PM
maybe he really liked M34 idk
Shroom - Today at 2:43 PM
he won't believe me anything so please assist me
at this point I already have a scumread on him
ShadowStarX - Today at 2:44 PM
well I also consider that weird
like, what's wrong with finding confirmed innocents
aside from singling them out for the mafia unintentionally
Shroom - Today at 2:44 PM
he's bringing up really awkward scenarios to say that I would not be innocent
Selena - Today at 2:57 PM
a lead, then?
I'll look into it
ShadowStarX - Today at 2:58 PM
kind of but definitely not enough for a D1 lynch
Selena - Today at 2:58 PM
yeah I agree
I'll look into his post history when I get home though
ShadowStarX - Today at 2:58 PM
and if PP really is mafia he won't mess up badly enough for a D1 lynch so probably every1 will stay alive aside from the N1 victim
Selena - Today at 2:59 PM
I can't be an alliance cornerstone this time so I'll pull some detective work instead
ShadowStarX - Today at 2:59 PM
also witchking has found an exploit before the reroll
ShadowStarX - Today at 3:00 PM
it's that the Driver can use his ability on himself
so they just pick an opponent and if the other person is inspected, they'll cardflip red
but if the driver is inspected, they'll cardflip the color the other person had
Selena - Today at 3:04 PM
well I don't know if that's an exploit really
but it's worth keeping an eye out for
ShadowStarX - Today at 3:05 PM
but considering he told me this info on N1 I dun think he's mafia
he didn't tell me information about certain people only this role
Selena - Today at 3:05 PM
yeah the mafia wouldn't give away a decent strat night 1
ShadowStarX - Today at 3:05 PM
the TP would but there is like no evidence to start suspecting Max
Selena - Today at 3:06 PM
I trust him for now
ShadowStarX - Today at 3:06 PM
and knowing him he'd pick Arsonist as TP which isn't nightkill immune and the mafia would probably try to wipe him out
so yeah I trust him as well
Selena - Today at 3:06 PM
I won't say confirmed yet, but I think he's good
ShadowStarX - Today at 3:07 PM
so there are like 2 confirmed and 1 almost confirmed town
Selena - Today at 3:07 PM
Shroom is the only one I'd maybe say confirmed
unless I'm missing something
ShadowStarX - Today at 3:07 PM
well Ness was last online like half an hour before the reroll
on the forums
Selena - Today at 3:08 PM
mm
discord, though?
ShadowStarX - Today at 3:08 PM
I can't check that
but you get the role pm via the forums
Selena - Today at 3:08 PM
I know for a fact that Shroom wasn't on here either
ShadowStarX - Today at 3:08 PM
and I'm p. sure you also need to choose on there
Selena - Today at 3:08 PM
that's true
ShadowStarX - Today at 3:08 PM
Ness didn't post a single thing when I was asleep
Selena - Today at 3:09 PM
last game I had to pick via forum
yeah never mind the discord thing then
ShadowStarX - Today at 3:10 PM
if there are only singular deaths for 3 nights we can assume there will be a blast around N6
Selena - Today at 3:11 PM
Ness is about confirmed too then
ShadowStarX - Today at 3:12 PM
3 confirmed townies
or almost confirmed
that's good for N1
unless Max did this to distract me
Selena - Today at 3:12 PM
I feel weird like I'm getting too meta with this
But if it works
I'll work on a preliminary suspicion list when I get home later
ShadowStarX - Today at 3:14 PM
also is it common for greens acting as a blue to prevent the actual blues from being targeted by mafia?
by acting I mean strategizing and listing possible scenarios around N2
Selena - Today at 3:15 PM
I've not seen such actions before
but it could be valid if done right
ShadowStarX - Today at 3:16 PM
I mean I might not have internet access on Thursday afternoon and Friday daytime so
whoops
Selena - Today at 3:16 PM
ah well
we've got it

[Thehelmetguy1]

Alright blues, claim to me please (SSX and Mega already agree on Discord that I'm innocent).

Which is your time zone Shroom?

[ShadowStarX]

Alright blues, claim to me please (SSX and Mega already agree on Discord that I'm innocent).

Which is your time zone Shroom?

CET (Germany, France, Italy, etc.)

[Cedur]

I'm known as German.

Also scumread =/= lead or suspicion.

[Thehelmetguy1]

I checked the time zone and yeah, the whole setup phase happened at night

[Thehelmetguy1]

(In the CET timezone)

[PersonNamedUser]

Even though Supershroom's reasoning for claiming that it's %100 confirmed he's townsperson are logical, you can still not be ABSOLUTELY postive.
though i do think it's likely.