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Joey wrote:

Nien wrote:

Joey wrote: I also want to mention that the Day 4 situation could've been prevented had I never PM'd qig the logs, because he forwarded them to Khon and Khon probably wasn't aware of what was actually happening. Then he posted them in the thread and all hell broke loose, when the only thing that happened was that I gave ZM a reaction test on the chat and he did something that was kind of suspicious.

what

if you didn't give qig the logs, zeldamaster would've never been lynched, it'd have been worse because you literally voted for a special at the beginning of the phase.

I could've led a lynch mob against ZM if I wanted to. The logs being publicized like they did made things worse for me.

You could've also just followed the zeldamaster lynch and the result would've literally been the same.

Nien, my point is that Khon posting those logs made things harder for me. Had I not sent them to qig, he wouldn't have sent them to Khon, Khon wouldn't have posted them out of context, etc.

Joey wrote:Nien, my point is that Khon posting those logs made things harder for me. Had I not sent them to qig, he wouldn't have sent them to Khon, Khon wouldn't have posted them out of context, etc.

Unless you explain how "it made things harder for you", i think it actually made things easier considering you had like 2 specials backing you up or some shit.

Joey wrote:Nien, my point is that Khon posting those logs made things harder for me. Had I not sent them to qig, he wouldn't have sent them to Khon, Khon wouldn't have posted them out of context, etc.

and zm wouldnt of been lynched and we would of lost.

Yeah, honestly if Khon didn't share those logs along with keeping his vote on me, I wouldn't have died probably.

Again, as I said, had I wanted to I could've used the evidence in the log against ZM to lead a lynch. Would I have done that? I don't know, but it definitely wouldn't have made me look as bad.

Joey wrote:Again, as I said, had I wanted to I could've used the evidence in the log against ZM to lead a lynch. Would I have done that? I don't know, but it definitely wouldn't have made me look as bad.

i'm pretty sure it's better for you to "look bad" instead of missing a gamewinning lynch

it made you look WORSE when you claimed a role and did nothing after forging an alliance with the blues

all that did was implicate you as the one who got them all killed

Joey wrote:Again, as I said, had I wanted to I could've used the evidence in the log against ZM to lead a lynch. Would I have done that? I don't know, but it definitely wouldn't have made me look as bad.

the point of mafia is to win, not look good.

Fyrus wrote:it made you look WORSE when you claimed a role and did nothing after forging an alliance with the blues

all that did was implicate you as the one who got them all killed

I understand, but it also would've helped if people had (like I said earlier) made an effort to get actual leads so I would've had someone I felt confident in using my power on. I realize that we have an inexperienced Mafia playerbase, though.

Nien wrote:i'm pretty sure it's better for you to "look bad" instead of missing a gamewinning lynch

qig wrote:the point of mafia is to win, not look good.

I was at fault for sending qig the logs without any explanation. I'm not putting the blame on qig, Khon, or anybody else. We ended up lynching ZM, sure; I was just commenting on the fact that a shitstorm happened when it shouldn't have.

I was the oblivious MVP of the game