M40: The Last Mafia - Mafia Wins

[MECHDRAGON777]

In my personal opinion, we should go after Thehelmetguy1 tomorrow (unless he's inspected green, because the chance of a green being the disguiser isn't really high but Spinda is also inspected green at this point and those two look equally suspicious)
Thg1 cardflipping red upon death would probably mean that Noodle is innocent. However thg1's innocence wouldn't confirm all that much about Noodle aside from increasing the chance (but not confirming) of him being mafia.

What shall we do tomorrow if thg1 is inspected green instead of red or blue? (since if he's inspected blue and not part of the alliance that'd also kinda confirm him being the disguiser at least from how I see it)

I can be down with voting TheHelmetguy01 of we need to, but I want to see if the Sherrif catches a red tonight first.

[glitch4]

Noodle: Has made purely random votes and votes after phaseshift, and just seems too trolly to give him puppy license. He's pretty much the opposite of pro-town. Would be good to know his cardflip color as well.

Yeah but that was once, also he voted sanct on day 3, so does this still make him suspicious? :d

[ShadowStarX]

Noodle: Has made purely random votes and votes after phaseshift, and just seems too trolly to give him puppy license. He's pretty much the opposite of pro-town. Would be good to know his cardflip color as well.

Yeah but that was once, also he voted sanct on day 3, so does this still make him suspicious? :d

Scums tend to vote for fellow mafiosi to cover suspicion so this doesn't confirm all that much. (I mean even if he's new he could've been told to do this by other scums if he's mafia) But I mean, Noodle is a wild card atm since well, he's new to mafia so idk what to think of him.

[Thehelmetguy1]

I have been thinking on ways to defend myself, but up until now, the best thing that I got was to say the attitude on day 1 was desperate, because I didn't want Mechdragon to be lynched for a bullshit reason. Let me also add that if you check some of my behavior in previous games you should know that I am usually skeptical or agressive when it comes to suspicion. Also I am being quiet because I don't have anything important to say for now

[Thehelmetguy1]

Also I am being quiet because I don't have anything important to say for now

I would like to make it clear that the only important things that I had to say were the previous post and the suspicion list, that hasn't changed at all(Well, I suspect less of Spinda now, but he is still at "Slightly Suspicious" part)

[MECHDRAGON777]

I have been thinking on ways to defend myself, but up until now, the best thing that I got was to say the attitude on day 1 was desperate, because I didn't want Mechdragon to be lynched for a bullshit reason. Let me also add that if you check some of my behavior in previous games you should know that I am usually skeptical or agressive when it comes to suspicion. Also I am being quiet because I don't have anything important to say for now

So everyone defending me is getting lynched? That is not a good way to draw suspicion on someone.

[Cedur]

So everyone defending me is getting lynched? That is not a good way to draw suspicion on someone.

That's not really what this discussion is about, but I see more where thg1 is coming from. Either way I classified him slightly suspicious, not highly suspicious. There's not much to go for yet, and inspecting Spinda again makes no sense. Noodle could also be less suspicious than I thought first.

So Sheriff, if you read this in time, it's good to inspect thg1.

[Julia Pseudo]

NIGHT 4 has ended!

MosaicMario was fixing his microphone when someone stabbed him.
MosaicMario has died!

It is now DAY 4! Day 4 will end at about 9:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, May 27, or earlier if there are enough votes for an insta.

[Zeldamaster12]

I was going to make up a color flip to hide what I'm about to tell you all, but I can't if I lay out all my suspicions. It's only a matter of time before the doctor is targeted, and I'm pretty sure the Mafia have already put the pieces together because I was roleblocked last night and they will probably continue to roleblock me unless we can get rid of the Consort, who is obviously still alive.

I'm the Sheriff. I made up that whole claimer thing so I could reveal my inspections without revealing that I'm the Sheriff. In the event that I would be found out, I gave all my suspicions to the Deputy, but he's already been killed, so that's useless now. There are a lot of people I have dirt on, and I can't reveal them all without claiming, so here you go, in no specific order.

SUSPICION 1 (thehelmetguy1): I was told to inspect him, and ironically enough, I was roleblocked in the same night. However, this isn't my largest suspicion, as I honestly don't think he's Mafia. If he was, his teammates would be working to defend him, but nobody is.

SUSPICION 2 (Spinda): I still kinda believe he's the Disguiser, but there's no way to prove it unless we lynch him off. He flipped green, but his behavior throughout the entire game has felt off, as he's been extremely pessimistic the entire game. He tried to think of every possible scenario to prove that my claim story was false, and it seemed to be in an attempt to sway people from believing me. HOWEVER, he did give up on trying to prove me wrong after Sanct was lynched, but that could just be a coverup.

SUSPICION 3 (ShadowStarX): He asked me if I would fake an inspection result in the event that the Sheriff is roleblocked, and ironically enough, the following night, I'm roleblocked. Could be a coincidence, but I'm not sure.

SUSPICION 4 (TNTtimelord): When Spinda flipped green on inspection, TNT instantly suggested that I let him into the alliance, not putting into perspective that he could be the disguiser. From what I've seen in past games, TNT is also very good at making himself look innocent, and he's been rather quiet this game as well.

SUSPICION 5 (Cedur): Throughout the entire game, something's felt off about him, but there isn't much to go by. I actually inspected Cedur last night, but I was obviously roleblocked. Cedur was heavily pushing for me to inspect thehelmetguy1, which could've been bait, but there isn't any way around proving it was bait since I was roleblocked. Keep in mind that my suspicion against Cedur is not major, it's mostly just a gut feeling.

SUSPICION 6 (Noodle): People have been speculating the entire game that he was the Sheriff since he's new and may not have known any better in the event that he was Sheriff and claimed to me. If people thought he was the Sheriff, wouldn't the Mafia have targeted him already? Something doesn't feel right about this.

[MECHDRAGON777]

Besides the public Sheriff claim, I can agree with all of Zeldamaster12's points.

[Noodle]

Spinda

[MECHDRAGON777]

Spinda

I am tempted to say Spinda as well, but lets wait to get everyone's say. We have six possible suspects according to Sheriff Zeldamaster12.

[Thehelmetguy1]

I knew ZM was good, but holy shit, this is a genius move. However the problem lies here: The Mafia will probably start roleblocking ZM from now on, until we get rid of the consort. I would say that the disguiser and the consort are the top priorities as of now, since the disguiser is a potential godfather or bartender(I would rather have bartender, since ZM knows all the blues). As for the consort, we won't be able to rely on inspections while the consort is alive.

[MECHDRAGON777]

I would also like to add something, but I would need Zeldamaster12's permission first.

[underFlo]

i wouldnt say this night's roleblock is in any way evidence against thg - that'd imply that the Mafia knew of your identity beforehand.

i never claimed your claim was false, i was merely pointing out the ways in which it could be fabricated (which was a bunch). If I actually spread any false information please do say so but to this point I see no issue with those posts considering the amount of information we had at the time.

did the conversation w/ SSX take place in PMs or in public? i'd like to see what exactly he asked and how he asked it. a weird thing for a townie to ask in any case.

since I know I'm good, I don't see how TNT could be Mafia - after all, why would a Mafia suggest that a good one should be added to the alliance? Outside of my point of view, the only pretty much impossible alignemt is that I am good and he'd be Mafia - everything else would still be possible. If the choice were between only me and TNT it would be smarter for the town to lynch me though since I've had more ties with other people and as such more potential for reads.

I don't see Cedur's push as all that incriminating - it wouldn't help the mafia all that much and wanting influence in the alliance seems like something he'd do.

Now that you mention it it definitely is weird how there was no kill attempt at Noodle yet. This is definitely something to consider.

As of right now I'd say the best targets would be Noodle or SSX. Context for SSX's question may help narrow that down.

[Zeldamaster12]

He DMd me on Discord this morning.

May I ask if you're going to just randomly say a random color publicly if the consort is still alive and roleblocks the sheriff or just announce that the sheriff was roleblocked?

since it might not be the best to confirm for the mafia if they've successfully hit the sheriff

unless they killed them ofc

[MECHDRAGON777]

He DMd me on Discord this morning.

May I ask if you're going to just randomly say a random color publicly if the consort is still alive and roleblocks the sheriff or just announce that the sheriff was roleblocked?

since it might not be the best to confirm for the mafia if they've successfully hit the sheriff

unless they killed them ofc

There is no way ShadowstarX could have guessed who would have been roleblocked without being Mafia; if not, he should explain this thoroughly. In anycase, it is a KitB if I remember Day 4 correctly so far.

[TLtimelord]

I was gonna criticise ZM for ousting the sheriff's reports making the sheriff exposed to himself and mafia only, but then I noticed he claimed as sheriff, so nevermind that lmao.

I have little to no suspicion against Spinda since he apparently cardflipped green. While you bring up a good point he's the disguiser, I don't think there's enough red flags.

Also I'm sorry for being quiet, I'm just trying not to repeat last game where I actually stuck my head out once and it proceeded to be cut off. I haven't really contributed much anyway so I see where you're coming from. :/

[Black Mamba]

There is no way ShadowstarX could have guessed who would have been roleblocked without being Mafia; if not, he should explain this thoroughly. In anycase, it is a KitB if I remember Day 4 correctly so far.

SSX could have just guessed correctly. But for the most part, I agree with you and it does draw a lot of suspicion towards him. I still don't know if I'm convinced he's mafia yet, but he's not really lookin so hot at the moment.

[Zeldamaster12]

Y'all don't vote yet :L