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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:22 pm
by ElectriKong
TheTrueMarioMaster wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:09 pm
Electriking wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:16 pm
TheTrueMarioMaster wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:58 pm

Wait, your saying enemy stacking is available in Beta 3 or it is just a script/add-on that needs to be included with the level? Also wouldn't mind seeing a lunalua level contest where people create scripts/add-ons specifically for the contest to make some interesting levels although for those kinds of contests far less people would probably participate in it since the person would need at least basic lunalua coding knowledge.
Enemy stacking has been available since 1.3 (probably before) in the form of NPC codes.
And LunaLua contests would probably be about as popular (or maybe slightly more) as unofficial contests
not in a way like PixelPest's first preview video showed which is what made it impressive.
It is done through NPC codes, so has been possible since that NPC code could be modified.

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:45 pm
by TheTrueMarioMaster
Electriking wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:22 pm
TheTrueMarioMaster wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:09 pm
Electriking wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:16 pm

Enemy stacking has been available since 1.3 (probably before) in the form of NPC codes.
And LunaLua contests would probably be about as popular (or maybe slightly more) as unofficial contests
not in a way like PixelPest's first preview video showed which is what made it impressive.
It is done through NPC codes, so has been possible since that NPC code could be modified.
But it's still very flawed for you can only stack enemies that have topblock code on them meaning Mario will also stand on top of them and only the very bottom enemy of the stack can be set to mobile otherwise the stack with behave wonky as seen with shy guy stacks in Invasion 2 and other episodes they appear in but making it so that only the bottom enemy of the stack is mobile makes it so that if the bottom enemy is taken out the stack will just become immobile. This is why I was thinking Beta 4 would have a better enemy stacking system like Mari0 does for those familiar with the Mario Portal game which also has it's own mappack (kind of like episodes for SMBX) creator.

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:34 pm
by PixelPest
TheTrueMarioMaster wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:58 pm
Enjl wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:50 pm
TheTrueMarioMaster wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:31 pm

Really, I thought pixelpest just featured other beta 4 content in his preview videos since what's in them seems to also be listed on the spreadsheet (though they might still be listed as WIP).
He does showcase beta 4 content, but showcases it along content not natively included, making them less useful to gauge what you actually get right out of the box imo. This is especially the case in the jungle video, which showcases stacked enemies, which is not a feature new to NPCs in beta 4, even though the video might lead you to believe that.
Wait, your saying enemy stacking is available in Beta 3 or it is just a script/add-on that needs to be included with the level? Also wouldn't mind seeing a lunalua level contest where people create scripts/add-ons specifically for the contest to make some interesting levels although for those kinds of contests far less people would probably participate in it since the person would need at least basic lunalua coding knowledge.
I've written in my video descriptions that my previews show what can be done with Beta4 and list as well that some of it (such as stacks) is separate code that I will release at the same time as Beta4. This is a lot different than the intention of Enjl's videos which demonstrate a lot of really neat new content that is basegame. I kinda just play around and make something

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:55 pm
by TheTrueMarioMaster
PixelPest wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:34 pm
TheTrueMarioMaster wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:58 pm
Enjl wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:50 pm

He does showcase beta 4 content, but showcases it along content not natively included, making them less useful to gauge what you actually get right out of the box imo. This is especially the case in the jungle video, which showcases stacked enemies, which is not a feature new to NPCs in beta 4, even though the video might lead you to believe that.
Wait, your saying enemy stacking is available in Beta 3 or it is just a script/add-on that needs to be included with the level? Also wouldn't mind seeing a lunalua level contest where people create scripts/add-ons specifically for the contest to make some interesting levels although for those kinds of contests far less people would probably participate in it since the person would need at least basic lunalua coding knowledge.
I've written in my video descriptions that my previews show what can be done with Beta4 and list as well that some of it (such as stacks) is separate code that I will release at the same time as Beta4. This is a lot different than the intention of Enjl's videos which demonstrate a lot of really neat new content that is basegame. I kinda just play around and make something
I see, my mistake. Although that does sound good and would be useful for an episode I plan on making in the future unfortunately it also requires flag poles and star coins so I will wait until those exist first before making it. Also I would require that SMB1 graphics pack that I see a lot of SMBX 1.4.4 SMB1 style levels are using.

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:06 am
by ChromaNyan
I just saw all the stuff planned for beta 4 and now i'm super hyped, because I'm now starting to use this more than the 38A version.

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:38 am
by GforGoomba
How do I use 2 of the same exit point (eg Goal Post), 1 for a secret level and 1 for a normal level?

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:46 am
by ElectriKong
GforGoomba wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:38 am
How do I use 2 of the same exit point (eg Goal Post), 1 for a secret level and 1 for a normal level?
You can't

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:54 pm
by GforGoomba
I used the "health" flag for Bowser so he can have 2 HP instead of 100. Why didnt the flag work?

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:02 pm
by Emral
GforGoomba wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:54 pm
I used the "health" flag for Bowser so he can have 2 HP instead of 100. Why didnt the flag work?
Cause there is no health flag.

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:11 pm
by GforGoomba
Enjl wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:02 pm
GforGoomba wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:54 pm
I used the "health" flag for Bowser so he can have 2 HP instead of 100. Why didnt the flag work?
Cause there is no health flag.
There is a health flag, it says so in PGE

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:18 pm
by ElectriKong
GforGoomba wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:11 pm
Enjl wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:02 pm
GforGoomba wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:54 pm
I used the "health" flag for Bowser so he can have 2 HP instead of 100. Why didnt the flag work?
Cause there is no health flag.
There is a health flag, it says so in PGE
That's PGE, not SMBX.

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:23 pm
by GforGoomba
Electriking wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:18 pm
GforGoomba wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:11 pm
Enjl wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:02 pm

Cause there is no health flag.
There is a health flag, it says so in PGE
That's PGE, not SMBX.
PGE IS SMBX.

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:13 pm
by Emral
GforGoomba wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:23 pm
Electriking wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:18 pm
GforGoomba wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:11 pm


There is a health flag, it says so in PGE
That's PGE, not SMBX.
PGE IS SMBX.
Citation needed.

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:26 pm
by GforGoomba
Enjl wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:13 pm
GforGoomba wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:23 pm
Electriking wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:18 pm

That's PGE, not SMBX.
PGE IS SMBX.
Citation needed.
You destroyed me

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:02 pm
by MustardCake
What Happened To The Battle Levels?

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:10 am
by TheTrueMarioMaster
Although aren't there ways in SMBX 2.0 to increase or decrease the number of hits an NPC takes before death. I'm pretty sure you could use those methods to change Bowser's HP.

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:32 am
by PopYoshi
It's possible with Lunalua but not using vanilla stuff or PGE

And for the guy up there, no, PGE is a program compatible with SMBX but it's not SMBX exactly, there's no HP in SMBX unless you use lunalua for make the NPCs to have a certain number of hits before being killed

The same goes with special stuff like custom music in worldmap

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:43 am
by Emral
Snowy_Desert wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:02 pm
What Happened To The Battle Levels?
Beta 5. I got big plans for them but we can't make them happen yet.

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:29 am
by GforGoomba
Battle levels are actually possible! Make a folder called "battle", download a battle level and Bob's your uncle!

Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:47 pm
by TheTrueMarioMaster
Enjl wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:43 am
Snowy_Desert wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:02 pm
What Happened To The Battle Levels?
Beta 5. I got big plans for them but we can't make them happen yet.
Thought Beta 5 was just going to be a character update with some extra features add. Didn't know battle mode would be fixed for that version. Also so many new possibilities could be added with all the different characters added. Although one of the things I would like to see added to battle mode is the possibility to have more than two players in battle (not sure how possible that would be though in the SMBX engine). An online mode that allows to connect with players from other computers would be great although considering the problems Mari0 had with getting online multiplayer working it might be a bit too complex for people to program.