Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

[mechamind]

But I will agree that everyone should deserve an equal opportunity to excel, to be happy and to use their comparative advantage.

The need has been clear to me for a while. I'm getting tired of planning for only $2.50 a day on food (rough U.S. dollar calculation) just so I can find my own opportunity. The thing is, I have the money to spend more on meals, but I want to do more than just the bare minimum in life.

(Emphasis on planning: At least I'm still able to eat healthy. I just get whatever is less expensive when it makes sense, and I buy non-perishable items only when they're on sale.)

[Magician]

Apparently (though this may not necessarily be true) it's an unpopular (or at least controversial) opinion that it's wrong to punch a Neo-Nazi.

I'm prepared to defend my view on that? I absolutely do think it's wrong.

[Danny]

Apparently (though this may not necessarily be true) it's an unpopular (or at least controversial) opinion that it's wrong to punch a Neo-Nazi.

I'm prepared to defend my view on that? I absolutely do think it's wrong.

I suppose it depends on the situation. If it's in self-defense or in defense of a minority being attacked by someone with confirmation that they are a Neo-Nazi (swastikas or anything of the like), I think it's the more violent way of handling an issue but it's perfectly in their rights to do so. If it's punching someone randomly just because you're angry or of an opposing party, it's not fine at all.

I suppose the biggest social problem we have (and this belongs in the social problem thread) is that we label everything and everyone. If this guy wasn't labeled as a Nazi/Neo-Nazi and was punched, I'm sure everything would have been entirely different, but instead this guy gets punched because he's a Nazi/Neo-Nazi and everyone flips shit over it. I understand that Nazis/Neo-Nazis are generally frowned upon, and I certainly follow the belief that most (or all) aren't the best of people, considering the basis of their beliefs, but labeling people as such and then making a mockery of them all over social media and just in general just because some asshat punched him is real derogatory in nature.

[arcade999]

I think everyones are equal
I think we live in a damned world due to all the corruption, pollution, wars, complains, racism, hate, Donald trump, mass capitalism and poeple who dont put their dog' shit in a plastic bag.

Bruh get some perspective. Nobody is equal because we all have different characteristics and environmental backgrounds. We only are equal in regards to civil laws and even then it can be made to privilege one class over another. But I will agree that everyone should deserve an equal opportunity to excel, to be happy and to use their comparative advantage.

As for your statement there, we do, but only in regards to modern liberals (because they are the people who would engage in voter fraud, fund rebel groups, whines and then get violent if certain things dont go their way, make apologies for races historically oppressed and fund groups that aren't in the best interests of representing race, generally having a holier-than-thou attitude to those who disagree with their position and see them as some ultimate evil, and corporatism which isnt the same as capitalism and rely on government action to benefit only themselves rather than letting the free market benefit the small guy). I will be posting evidence of the above if any of you do respond to my post.

I'd like to take this chance to remind everyone that I still hate all of you.

And I agree with this as well.

When i mean ``equal``, i mean in the sens thet i am aigains't racism and sexism.

[Cedur]

Well in practice we're not even all equal in regards to civil law.

[metalluigimario]

Apparently (though this may not necessarily be true) it's an unpopular (or at least controversial) opinion that it's wrong to punch a Neo-Nazi.

I'm prepared to defend my view on that? I absolutely do think it's wrong.

I suppose it depends on the situation. If it's in self-defense or in defense of a minority being attacked by someone with confirmation that they are a Neo-Nazi (swastikas or anything of the like), I think it's the more violent way of handling an issue but it's perfectly in their rights to do so. If it's punching someone randomly just because you're angry or of an opposing party, it's not fine at all.

I suppose the biggest social problem we have (and this belongs in the social problem thread) is that we label everything and everyone. If this guy wasn't labeled as a Nazi/Neo-Nazi and was punched, I'm sure everything would have been entirely different, but instead this guy gets punched because he's a Nazi/Neo-Nazi and everyone flips shit over it. I understand that Nazis/Neo-Nazis are generally frowned upon, and I certainly follow the belief that most (or all) aren't the best of people, considering the basis of their beliefs, but labeling people as such and then making a mockery of them all over social media and just in general just because some asshat punched him is real derogatory in nature.

Why does it have to be a neonazi or a fag or a woman or a disabled person or a vet or a child,

Shouldn't it just be wrong to hit a PERSON? I mean unless your life is in danger or the person you are hitting/going to hit have some kind of mutual agreement.
How does every little thing they believe have anything to do with whether or not hitting someone is okay? We should stop looking at each other like we are so different cuz we don't think alike because the fact that we feel and hurt is was makes us all the same regardless of all the stupid things we fight about.

[Danny]

Apparently (though this may not necessarily be true) it's an unpopular (or at least controversial) opinion that it's wrong to punch a Neo-Nazi.

I'm prepared to defend my view on that? I absolutely do think it's wrong.

I suppose it depends on the situation. If it's in self-defense or in defense of a minority being attacked by someone with confirmation that they are a Neo-Nazi (swastikas or anything of the like), I think it's the more violent way of handling an issue but it's perfectly in their rights to do so. If it's punching someone randomly just because you're angry or of an opposing party, it's not fine at all.

I suppose the biggest social problem we have (and this belongs in the social problem thread) is that we label everything and everyone. If this guy wasn't labeled as a Nazi/Neo-Nazi and was punched, I'm sure everything would have been entirely different, but instead this guy gets punched because he's a Nazi/Neo-Nazi and everyone flips shit over it. I understand that Nazis/Neo-Nazis are generally frowned upon, and I certainly follow the belief that most (or all) aren't the best of people, considering the basis of their beliefs, but labeling people as such and then making a mockery of them all over social media and just in general just because some asshat punched him is real derogatory in nature.

Why does it have to be a neonazi or a fag or a woman or a disabled person or a vet or a child,

Shouldn't it just be wrong to hit a PERSON? I mean unless your life is in danger or the person you are hitting/going to hit have some kind of mutual agreement.
How does every little thing they believe have anything to do with whether or not hitting someone is okay? We should stop looking at each other like we are so different cuz we don't think alike because the fact that we feel and hurt is was makes us all the same regardless of all the stupid things we fight about.

That wasn't the point I was getting at. It's wrong to hit anyone for no particular reason, unless it's self-defense or you're defending someone getting attacked. I know laws in my state allow self-defense or defense against an attacker (say someone helpless is getting attacked on the street by a hooligan), though that's not to say you can just get into a brawl and start beating people up.

The point I was getting at is that we shouldn't be labeling people to get reasons as to why they should be hit or not. I agree that it's wrong to hit a person for no reason at all, but the issue we're dealing with is that people that are hit and it gets broadcasted and blown out of proportion on social media or where ever are usually given some sort of label, such as the recent "punch a nazi" incident you can see here:
https://twitter.com/TheeCurrentYear/sta ... 3661184000

[metalluigimario]

I suppose it depends on the situation. If it's in self-defense or in defense of a minority being attacked by someone with confirmation that they are a Neo-Nazi (swastikas or anything of the like), I think it's the more violent way of handling an issue but it's perfectly in their rights to do so. If it's punching someone randomly just because you're angry or of an opposing party, it's not fine at all.

I suppose the biggest social problem we have (and this belongs in the social problem thread) is that we label everything and everyone. If this guy wasn't labeled as a Nazi/Neo-Nazi and was punched, I'm sure everything would have been entirely different, but instead this guy gets punched because he's a Nazi/Neo-Nazi and everyone flips shit over it. I understand that Nazis/Neo-Nazis are generally frowned upon, and I certainly follow the belief that most (or all) aren't the best of people, considering the basis of their beliefs, but labeling people as such and then making a mockery of them all over social media and just in general just because some asshat punched him is real derogatory in nature.

Why does it have to be a neonazi or a fag or a woman or a disabled person or a vet or a child,

Shouldn't it just be wrong to hit a PERSON? I mean unless your life is in danger or the person you are hitting/going to hit have some kind of mutual agreement.
How does every little thing they believe have anything to do with whether or not hitting someone is okay? We should stop looking at each other like we are so different cuz we don't think alike because the fact that we feel and hurt is was makes us all the same regardless of all the stupid things we fight about.

That wasn't the point I was getting at. It's wrong to hit anyone for no particular reason, unless it's self-defense or you're defending someone getting attacked. I know laws in my state allow self-defense or defense against an attacker (say someone helpless is getting attacked on the street by a hooligan), though that's not to say you can just get into a brawl and start beating people up.

The point I was getting at is that we shouldn't be labeling people to get reasons as to why they should be hit or not. I agree that it's wrong to hit a person for no reason at all, but the issue we're dealing with is that people that are hit and it gets broadcasted and blown out of proportion on social media or where ever are usually given some sort of label, such as the recent "punch a nazi" incident you can see here:
https://twitter.com/TheeCurrentYear/sta ... 3661184000

I was saying the exact same thing, lol. But it only gets broadcasted and blown out of proportion because the media is ultimately controlled by our corrupt government and works hard to incite anger and fear and hatred so that everybody has something to bitch about BESIDES the US government. And, as such, it would seem less likely that the people would end trying to change it, imo...

[Magician]

The big deal to me is people throwing away morality, and their consistency in their beliefs, the moment they come across someone they disagree with.

If you (speaking generally) have ever been falsely accused in your life, or have the empathy to imagine yourself in the shoes of the falsely accused, you would understand and respect the right to due process, and this is something that vigilantism inherently robs its victims of. In a just society where everyone agrees to due process, a label isn't much more than an annoyance through which people project negative things onto you. You can live with labels in a just society, as irritating as they can be if they are forced on you. The minute labels become the justification for violence and this happens in lieu of an actual fair trial, and people start saying that their morality justifies an immoral action, that's not acceptable.

I'm not even one of those people saying to debate the guy. I'd rather people just ignored him and his type.

[Cedur]

Well that's the problem with labels - they're a part of everyone's thinking, and they're grounds for manipulation, insults, conceit, hypocrisy and injustice. These outcomes is what has to be stopped.

[Oshi]

Bump?

Anyways, the toxicity of the internet is unneeded. Everyone is so viscous it seems that you cannot go anywhere without being bashed. Sure, everyone has a personal standpoint, but we don't need to slap things silly with anger. I swear, people are always so furious over something that you aren't safe anymore and you have nowhere to go. I feel like everyone needs to find a way to chill out and express theirselfs civilly. This is a lesson that every one needs to know.

I know fury is an expression that everyone feels, but please don't take it blowing over the roof.

[Oshi]

Uh, what happened to this thread? I don't want to have to bump it again, but I guess I have to...Ignore the above post actually, it's no longer relevant to my current outlook.



My unpopular opinion is that we should, to avoid them having a miserable and pointless life, abort people with serious mental conditions. My reasoning being is that they will have to struggle to keep up with the mindset of "normal people," and will generally be singled out as an empty shell with no mind. I know this combats with the "all lives matter" argument, but they shouldn't have to struggle in their lives. A positive outlook of this practice would be that we could actually find a cure for certain diseases, and it could even replace the need for donors, which there are so little of in society.


This is just a short opinion of mine, feel free to insert your thoughts.

[aero]

should

Dangerous word to use with your post.

[PopYoshi]

4. Furrys and otherkins should be see medical help, and people should stop letting them think that they're amother species/non-exestining species. Because lets be honest, these people saying that they are not humans sound crazy. Even looking through an Atheists point of view, and a creationists point of view, you still look a bit touched it the head.

Not everyone is like that, but that doesn't mean I've seen a lot of strange people in furry or similar (I was once a furry for being honest)

[Marina]

Do I smell a Debate Spawn 2018 thread?

[Cedur]

Yes, all lives do matter, and there is no concept of "mercy killing" in the case of mental diseases. I don't have to come with the many examples of autists who make the best out of their situation and who don't feel like having a worthless miserable life. And I guess that even the highly deranged wouldn't want to die. Your line of thought can be applied to the most extreme of cases and you're going too far with it. If you learned enough about 3rd empire euthanasia then you would not want it to be practiced anywhere ever.

[Thehelmetguy1]

I have an idea. Ask people with serious mental disorders if they want to live and if they think their life has a point or is miserable.

[PopYoshi]

I have an idea. Ask people with serious mental disorders if they want to live and if they think their life has a point or is miserable.

I know about someone with mental problems who thinks like that

[aero]

Unpopular opinions are what this thread is for, not uninformed. If you want to share your thoughts on something fine, just don't write out serious and unpopular opinions and then leave it at that. If the subjects brought up aren't going to be handled well, please don't bring them up.

[xDestroy]

delete the level designer role