M20: The Ladder of Success (Post-game PSum)

FallingSnow · Postby **FallingSnow** » Fri May 15, 2015 10:24 pm

1. The role PM must not be directly discussed. It is fine, however, to discuss your role itself - this is encouraged in some situations, and of course players will lie.

And because of this, I'm obligated to put the PMs in the OP. Sorry I didn't catch this sooner.

Mivixion · Postby **Mivixion** » Fri May 15, 2015 10:34 pm

HenryRichard seems like a safe lynch target for tomorrow considering that an inactive townie helps the town just about as much as any anti-town role does.

FallingSnow · Postby **FallingSnow** » Sat May 16, 2015 1:40 am

Night 5 has ended.

Day 5 begins and will end around 11:59pm Eastern Time on May 16.

Mivixion · Postby **Mivixion** » Sat May 16, 2015 7:44 am

HenryRichard
If TNT were to tell us why everyone trusts him though, that would be nice.

RudeGuy · Postby **RudeGuy** » Sat May 16, 2015 8:17 am

Wait we had to give the PM fallingsnow sent us to TNT? I didn't understand that.
Anyway, I'll wait before lynching someone, it doesn't seem that we have any lead other than HenryRichard, and I don't understand why would he be lynched.

Hyperme · Postby **Hyperme** » Sat May 16, 2015 8:39 am

Basically TNT was attempting to use the fact that the role PMs weren't posted to find the Saboteur. This is generally frowned upon, and is also against the forum rules!

Anyway we might as well kill lurkers at this point since we have very little to go on. Ideally*, the Saboteur would be killing people, but their kills are delayed.

*because then we might have actually information

RoundPiplup · Postby **RoundPiplup** » Sat May 16, 2015 11:58 am

HenryRichard

Mivixion · Postby **Mivixion** » Sat May 16, 2015 12:40 pm

How are we sure TNT isn't the Saboteur himself??

TLtimelord · Postby **TLtimelord** » Sat May 16, 2015 1:03 pm

Mivixion wrote:How are we sure TNT isn't the Saboteur himself??

I was hoping someone would answer that question!

Well, since I can't prove myself innocent anymore as I have discovered/remembered the rule that we can't post our role PMs if they haven't been posted. Plus, I would have already known the legitimate town role PM anyways since people have shown me it. All I have to back myself up is: I hope you guys trust me.

The three people left that didn't send me role PMs though are Hyperme, HenryRichard, and Mivixion. You'll guys have to find other ways to prove yourselves innocent. I'm not voting quite yet because I want to be sparing since we have only so many towners left.

Mivixion · Postby **Mivixion** » Sat May 16, 2015 8:28 pm

If it isn't HenryRichard I'd honestly go for TNT tomorrow although his would be a very risky Saboteur play... which is a great reason to do it considering it would make you seem radical.

TLtimelord · Postby **TLtimelord** » Sat May 16, 2015 10:45 pm

Mivixion wrote:If it isn't HenryRichard I'd honestly go for TNT tomorrow although his would be a very risky Saboteur play... which is a great reason to do it considering it would make you seem radical.

Why are you on me all of a sudden today, though?

FallingSnow · Postby **FallingSnow** » Sun May 17, 2015 3:19 am

HenryRichard has been lynched.

Night 6 begins.

Hyperme · Postby **Hyperme** » Sun May 17, 2015 5:59 am

Having crunched the numbers, it seems like the Saboteur can't win if TNT is telling the truth about who send him PMs. We can lynch people way faster than he can blow them up, and there are only three choices to choose from.

I know I'm not a bomber, so who is?

Waddle · Postby **Waddle** » Sun May 17, 2015 6:41 am

I don't think it's possible for the saboteur to win anymore anyways. Think about it.

RudeGuy · Postby **RudeGuy** » Sun May 17, 2015 6:58 am

Waddle Derp wrote:I don't think it's possible for the saboteur to win anymore anyways. Think about it.

It's possible, just really difficult since there are still 7 players alive according to the OP.

TNTtimelord wrote:
Mivixion wrote:If it isn't HenryRichard I'd honestly go for TNT tomorrow although his would be a very risky Saboteur play... which is a great reason to do it considering it would make you seem radical.
Why are you on me all of a sudden today, though?

Maybe you are the saboteur trying to put suspicion away from yourself (not trying to accuse you though).

Mivixion · Postby **Mivixion** » Sun May 17, 2015 12:12 pm

TNTtimelord wrote:
Mivixion wrote:If it isn't HenryRichard I'd honestly go for TNT tomorrow although his would be a very risky Saboteur play... which is a great reason to do it considering it would make you seem radical.
Why are you on me all of a sudden today, though?

Because I finally have time on my hands, maybe?

TLtimelord · Postby **TLtimelord** » Sun May 17, 2015 2:03 pm

Mivixion wrote:
TNTtimelord wrote:
Mivixion wrote:If it isn't HenryRichard I'd honestly go for TNT tomorrow although his would be a very risky Saboteur play... which is a great reason to do it considering it would make you seem radical.
Why are you on me all of a sudden today, though?
Because I finally have time on my hands, maybe?

What exactly do you mean by this? That was a very cryptic you said there!

I was never entirely sure of HenryRichard considering his activity was at an absolute 0.

Hyperme · Postby **Hyperme** » Sun May 17, 2015 4:56 pm

Having given it some thought, TNT probably isn't the Saboteur. The PM thing simply wouldn't work. If TNT was Saboteur, it would go like this:

1. Get all the PMs.
2. Say person X didn't PM even though they did.
3. X claims that TNT is a lying liar who lies.
4. X is lynched, or goto 6.
5. X flips not orange.
6. TNT is lynched for being a lying liar who lies.