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[Danny]

I gave Knux creative and put him out in scenic nowhere and monitored him, and I then removed his creative mode when I left. I'm not sure why he should still have it, I did remove it when I left, and at this point I might force survival onto all players as a precaution.

Those images are enough proof. Albeit there is no name, the fact that Knux reacted immediately in chat is enough. I do think it was a bit overboard to ban Knux from the IRC, at least that's what he told me you did, but that's none of my concern.

I'll be gone for a short while, when I get back I'll deal with things and clean up.

[Ignoritus]

I gave Knux creative and put him out in scenic nowhere and monitored him, and I then removed his creative mode when I left. I'm not sure why he should still have it, I did remove it when I left, and at this point I might force survival onto all players as a precaution.

Those images are enough proof. Albeit there is no name, the fact that Knux reacted immediately in chat is enough. I do think it was a bit overboard to ban Knux from the IRC, at least that's what he told me you did, but that's none of my concern.

I'll be gone for a short while, when I get back I'll deal with things and clean up.

I mean, as usual I'm not really leaning one way or another on this, but I don't see how those images are "proof" in the slightest. We have no idea why Knux yelled "PEVIO". Wasn't Ghosthawk already demoted at that point?
Something strikes me as odd here, Knux shouldn't have even had creative.

[aero]

I gave Knux creative and put him out in scenic nowhere and monitored him, and I then removed his creative mode when I left. I'm not sure why he should still have it, I did remove it when I left, and at this point I might force survival onto all players as a precaution.

Those images are enough proof. Albeit there is no name, the fact that Knux reacted immediately in chat is enough. I do think it was a bit overboard to ban Knux from the IRC, at least that's what he told me you did, but that's none of my concern.

I'll be gone for a short while, when I get back I'll deal with things and clean up.

It's primarily the basement in your castle that's left unpatched since nobody could remember how it looked. Nothing else that I'm aware of is damaged or hasn't already been cleaned up. I banned him on IRC to prevent him from derailing it with this situation, and to keep him from further defaming me.

I mean, as usual I'm not really leaning one way or another on this, but I don't see how those images are "proof" in the slightest. We have no idea why Knux yelled "PEVIO". Wasn't Ghosthawk already demoted at that point?
Something strikes me as odd here, Knux shouldn't have even had creative.

I was demoted, but I still had creative. In the screenshot I'm looking at someone invisible, flying, holding TNT, and Knux is the only one reacting in chat. Also, all of the screenshots are in the first person view so it's not possible that it's me since the TNT is shown floating in someone's hands that aren't mine. Also, I didn't have TNT in my inventory at the time either and you can still see it being actively placed by someone else.

Also, I can confirm he had creative since he was flying around and I have a screen of him mocking me by placing a single TNT block.

[Ignoritus]

I was demoted, but I still had creative. In the screenshot I'm looking at someone invisible, flying, holding TNT, and Knux is the only one reacting in chat. Also, all of the screenshots are in the first person view so it's not possible that it's me since the TNT is shown floating in someone's hands that aren't mine. Also, I didn't have TNT in my inventory at the time either and you can still see it being actively placed by someone else.

My point is, if Knux knew you were demoted why would he cry for you in response to seeing something being griefed? What did he think you could do?

[MacheTheFerret]

Also, I can confirm he had creative since he was flying around and I have a screen of him mocking me by placing a single TNT block.

I was there, by the way. And it was a joke, by the way.
Go ahead and show us this screenshot. It wouldn't hurt.

[aero]

I was demoted, but I still had creative. In the screenshot I'm looking at someone invisible, flying, holding TNT, and Knux is the only one reacting in chat. Also, all of the screenshots are in the first person view so it's not possible that it's me since the TNT is shown floating in someone's hands that aren't mine. Also, I didn't have TNT in my inventory at the time either and you can still see it being actively placed by someone else.

My point is, if Knux knew you were demoted why would he cry for you in response to seeing something being griefed? What did he think you could do?

He was accusing me of doing it, not calling me over. I don't have the logs, but Danny can provide them if he wishes.

Also, I can confirm he had creative since he was flying around and I have a screen of him mocking me by placing a single TNT block.

I was there, by the way. And it was a joke, by the way.
Go ahead and show us this screenshot. It wouldn't hurt.

I know he was joking, but it shows he had creative.

[Panda]

Knux texted me and asked me to post this:

im banned atm to prevent me from exposing ghosthawk but could you go into the minecraft thread in the video games forum and post:

pevio and i were placing tnt about as a joke (but not activating it). pevio found me near a castle and placed too many tnt blocks at once. (this is whrn i shouted PEVIO.) i placed some around to join in (without intent of activating them) and then he activated them (whrn i had a block in my hand) and blew them up after screenshots were taken.

this is why it looks like i did it

don't shoot the messenger

[aero]

Knux texted me and asked me to post this:

im banned atm to prevent me from exposing ghosthawk but could you go into the minecraft thread in the video games forum and post:

pevio and i were placing tnt about as a joke (but not activating it). pevio found me near a castle and placed too many tnt blocks at once. (this is whrn i shouted PEVIO.) i placed some around to join in (without intent of activating them) and then he activated them (whrn i had a block in my hand) and blew them up after screenshots were taken.

this is why it looks like i did it

don't shoot the messenger

Thanks, but no thanks really. I banned him on IRC for this exact reason. Also that explanation fails to explain why he went invisible and how I was placing TNT without it in my inventory. Thanks though since he is now confirming he was there, but can't make up an excuse.

[Danny]

From what I understand at this point that either side isn't telling me truthful things so both of you should stop your bickering.

[aero]

From what I understand at this point that either side isn't telling me truthful things so both of you should stop your bickering.

I've been completely honest with you, and now I have the screenshots that you want. In fact, some of the things that I've been honest about helped get me demoted besides Knux's griefing. I really don't know how I can prove my case anymore than I have so far. There has been no excuses from me, only the burden of proof and now I have it and so should you in the server logs.

[Ignoritus]

Knux texted me and asked me to post this:

im banned atm to prevent me from exposing ghosthawk but could you go into the minecraft thread in the video games forum and post:

pevio and i were placing tnt about as a joke (but not activating it). pevio found me near a castle and placed too many tnt blocks at once. (this is whrn i shouted PEVIO.) i placed some around to join in (without intent of activating them) and then he activated them (whrn i had a block in my hand) and blew them up after screenshots were taken.

this is why it looks like i did it

don't shoot the messenger

Thanks, but no thanks really. I banned him on IRC for this exact reason. Also that explanation fails to explain why he went invisible and how I was placing TNT without it in my inventory. Thanks though since he is now confirming he was there, but can't make up an excuse.

You banned him from IRC because of something on the unrelated Minecraft server so that he couldn't defend himself as you accused him?

Knux's story is pretty unbelievable, but that's shady as hell bro.

[Bomber57]

Thanks, but no thanks really. I banned him on IRC for this exact reason. Also that explanation fails to explain why he went invisible and how I was placing TNT without it in my inventory. Thanks though since he is now confirming he was there, but can't make up an excuse.

You banned him from IRC because of something on the unrelated Minecraft server so that he couldn't defend himself as you accused him?

Knux's story is pretty unbelievable, but that's shady as hell bro.

Agreed. Honestly I take no sides in this, I was just helping rebuild the house. All I can say is sorry to PaperPlayer for this happening.

[aero]

You banned him from IRC because of something on the unrelated Minecraft server so that he couldn't defend himself as you accused him?

Knux's story is pretty unbelievable, but that's shady as hell bro.

No, I figured he'd make up excuses so I didn't want him derailing the chat. I've already said this.

<GhostHawk> caught him griefing and I don't want him spreading anything
<DatDude> It was ghost
* DatDude has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
<GhostHawk> it's only going to last until Danny gets back

He's unbanned in IRC now that Danny is back, just as I said, and it was successful in preventing him from sending any excuses except for the Panda sent. He's been talking behind my back on nsmbx (thread was deleted or something, Gohan and zeldamaster can testify to it's existence if you don't believe me) about this too accusing me of all of the griefing all the way back to Michel. I'm not going to let him play dirty, whilst ruining my credibility. If I've completely lost my mind and I'm not seeing the same screenshots you guys are seeing, then he'll be able to prove it's me. The thing is, he has no screenshots because he's the one doing it.

It actually makes his story more absurd since that would be the first thing he would do if he caught me placing TNT, not joining in. That's even if you dismiss all of the other factors of the screenshots I gave too, such as: the timing, the perspective (btw he couldn't have joined in because if you look at the screenshots + the timestamps, you see me walking in and he's already placing TNT), and everything else.

[Ignoritus]

No, I figured he'd make up excuses so I didn't want him derailing the chat. I've already said this.

<GhostHawk> caught him griefing and I don't want him spreading anything
<DatDude> It was ghost
* DatDude has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
<GhostHawk> it's only going to last until Danny gets back

He's unbanned in IRC now that Danny is back, just as I said, and it was successful in preventing him from sending any excuses except for the Panda sent. He's been talking behind my back on nsmbx (thread was deleted or something, Gohan and zeldamaster can testify to it's existence if you don't believe me) about this too accusing me of all of the griefing all the way back to Michel. I'm not going to let him play dirty, whilst ruining my credibility. If I've completely lost my mind and I'm not seeing the same screenshots you guys are seeing, then he'll be able to prove it's me. The thing is, he has no screenshots because he's the one doing it.

So it's perfectly fair for you to ruin his credibility, but if he's ruining your credibility he needs to be banned? Seems fair.

It actually makes his story more absurd since that would be the first thing he would do if he caught me placing TNT, not joining in.

This is true.

That's even if you dismiss all of the other factors of the screenshots I gave too, such as: the timing, the perspective (btw he couldn't have joined in because if you look at the screenshots + the timestamps, you see me walking in and he's already placing TNT), and everything else.

We do not get a clear enough picture of any of this from those screenshots to reach any conclusions. Just the same, the fact you did not have TNT is a moot point because that can be easily hidden. As far as I can tell, that screenshot you posted on the last page is also not any proof that Knux had creative. Let's work with legitimate verifiable information here if we can.




What I'd really like to know is why in all of those screenshots you're running a hack designed for cheating and griefing?
This isn't an accusation by the way, I'd honestly like an explanation.

[MistakesWereMade]

guys if you want to i openned a thing where you can hire me to do any kind of job for you, wether it'd be grinding, mining, or killing ignoritus (or other people)

[aero]

No, I figured he'd make up excuses so I didn't want him derailing the chat. I've already said this.

<GhostHawk> caught him griefing and I don't want him spreading anything
<DatDude> It was ghost
* DatDude has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
<GhostHawk> it's only going to last until Danny gets back

He's unbanned in IRC now that Danny is back, just as I said, and it was successful in preventing him from sending any excuses except for the Panda sent. He's been talking behind my back on nsmbx (thread was deleted or something, Gohan and zeldamaster can testify to it's existence if you don't believe me) about this too accusing me of all of the griefing all the way back to Michel. I'm not going to let him play dirty, whilst ruining my credibility. If I've completely lost my mind and I'm not seeing the same screenshots you guys are seeing, then he'll be able to prove it's me. The thing is, he has no screenshots because he's the one doing it.

So it's perfectly fair for you to ruin his credibility, but if he's ruining your credibility he needs to be banned? Seems fair.

Fair enough of a point, but allow me to say that I'm providing evidence that I am not the one who is griefing and he's the one going around trying to get me demoted and banned. I know it may not be considered the right thing to do, and it probably isn't, but I take it personally when somebody lies about what I have done and gets me in trouble for it and I feel the need to fight back. I tried to keep it fair though by not abusing my power to make it an official ban.

That's even if you dismiss all of the other factors of the screenshots I gave too, such as: the timing, the perspective (btw he couldn't have joined in because if you look at the screenshots + the timestamps, you see me walking in and he's already placing TNT), and everything else.

We do not get a clear enough picture of any of this from those screenshots to reach any conclusions. Just the same, the fact you did not have TNT is a moot point because that can be easily hidden. As far as I can tell, that screenshot you posted on the last page is also not any proof that Knux had creative. Let's work with legitimate verifiable information here if we can.

I wouldn't say it's moot. As shown in the screenshot, there is an invisible person holding TNT in front of TNT that is already placed that I had just uncovered. Also the only other people online were MurphMario and Nien, what makes it possible to accuse Knux is that he was reacting as it happened (the server logs can confirm this since my screenshots didn't capture all of it), and that I followed him into the area. I wasn't able to screenshot this though, so believe or don't believe it. MurphMario and Nien can also confirm that Knux indeed had creative.

What I'd really like to know is why in all of those screenshots you're running a hack designed for cheating and griefing?
This isn't an accusation by the way, I'd honestly like an explanation.

It makes as good of an OP client as it does a griefing client. So far in the server, I've used: the tracers feature to locate players, the waypoints feature to find spawn and VSMBXVillage, the nuker to clear out a flat surface for the castle and the tunnel used for the subway, xray to look for TNT and command blocks, and fastplace to build the walls around the castle quickly along with the subway. I won't deny it's dangerous, I caught Jimb0v using the nuker to mine dirt to be used to cover up the griefed castle and Michel using the fly and speed mods. Honestly, had everything been working, specifically the radar, none of this discussion would have happened since Knux's name would have shown up. For some reason the 1.8 version is crap, so now I have to get picture perfect screenshots in order to show my innocence.

Also, if I were to grief the server, why would I use TNT when I have the nuker? Doesn't add up.

[Ignoritus]

Now we're getting somewhere.

Fair enough of a point, but allow me to say that I'm providing evidence that I am not the one who is griefing and he's the one going around trying to get me demoted and banned. I know it may not be considered the right thing to do, and it probably isn't, but I take it personally when somebody lies about what I have done and gets me in trouble for it and I feel the need to fight back. I tried to keep it fair though by not abusing my power to make it an official ban.

I think you realize this already, but it's not "fair" when you defend yourself and try to prevent him from doing the same. Assuming you are innocent I can understand the feeling, but silencing the opposition isn't helping you much. It just looks shady.

I wouldn't say it's moot. As shown in the screenshot, there is an invisible person holding TNT in front of TNT that is already placed that I had just uncovered.

What's moot is your point that "it couldn't have been you because you didn't have TNT". I don't think anyone is arguing that the invisible person wasn't placing TNT, but we have no proof that you weren't as well. So Knux's rather..... odd.... story technically isn't discredited at all by this.

Also the only other people online were MurphMario and Nien, what makes it possible to accuse Knux is that he was reacting as it happened (the server logs can confirm this since my screenshots didn't capture all of it), and that I followed him into the area. I wasn't able to screenshot this though, so believe or don't believe it. MurphMario and Nien can also confirm that Knux indeed had creative.

Perhaps the server logs can confirm, but your screenshots are unclear. I spoke with Nien and he confirmed that he saw Knux flying, so I think that eliminates any doubt that he had creative.

It makes as good of an OP client as it does a griefing client. So far in the server, I've used: the tracers feature to locate players, the waypoints feature to find spawn and VSMBXVillage, the nuker to clear out a flat surface for the castle and the tunnel used for the subway, xray to look for TNT and command blocks, and fastplace to build the walls around the castle quickly along with the subway. I won't deny it's dangerous, I caught Jimb0v using the nuker to mine dirt to be used to cover up the griefed castle and Michel using the fly and speed mods. Honestly, had everything been working, specifically the radar, none of this discussion would have happened since Knux's name would have shown up. For some reason the 1.8 version is crap, so now I have to get picture perfect screenshots in order to show my innocence.

Also, if I were to grief the server, why would I use TNT when I have the nuker? Doesn't add up.

As you implied at the bottom, none of the griefing done at any point resembled anything that client seems capable of, so I see this as a perfectly reasonable explanation.

[Danny]

From what I understand at this point that either side isn't telling me truthful things so both of you should stop your bickering.

I've been completely honest with you, and now I have the screenshots that you want. In fact, some of the things that I've been honest about helped get me demoted besides Knux's griefing. I really don't know how I can prove my case anymore than I have so far. There has been no excuses from me, only the burden of proof and now I have it and so should you in the server logs.

At this point I'm now deciding on a final verdict and running through the server logs.

You banned him from IRC because of something on the unrelated Minecraft server so that he couldn't defend himself as you accused him?

Knux's story is pretty unbelievable, but that's shady as hell bro.

No, I figured he'd make up excuses so I didn't want him derailing the chat. I've already said this.

<GhostHawk> caught him griefing and I don't want him spreading anything
<DatDude> It was ghost
* DatDude has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
<GhostHawk> it's only going to last until Danny gets back

I have to agree with Ignoritus on this. Regardless of him griefing or not, this server has nothing to do with the IRC and there was no real reason to ban him from it. Unless he was spamming or something, I had no intentions of him getting banned from the IRC, something completely unrelated to this server.

He's unbanned in IRC now that Danny is back, just as I said, and it was successful in preventing him from sending any excuses except for the Panda sent. He's been talking behind my back on nsmbx (thread was deleted or something, Gohan and zeldamaster can testify to it's existence if you don't believe me) about this too accusing me of all of the griefing all the way back to Michel.

Okay, you shut him up, but to prevent him from sending excuses? Okay, not sure why you did that. It's honestly not my problem if he's been talking behind your back, I had no intentions of that and there was no way I could prevent if it actually happened. You did happen to grief Michel's base, but I'm pretty sure that's all you mucked up before Michel and Pixels were banned for hacking, the only thing you can get blamed for griefing was Michel's base, although I could have cared less about it, it was still something that shouldn't have been done.

I'm not going to let him play dirty, whilst ruining my credibility. If I've completely lost my mind and I'm not seeing the same screenshots you guys are seeing, then he'll be able to prove it's me. The thing is, he has no screenshots because he's the one doing it.

I've come across this and have decided to lean on your side of the story more because Knux doesn't have any screenshots, although I still have taken a few of his reports into consideration, I'm not sure he can prove to me that you were griefing besides what I believe, and the only thing I believe is you spawning Creepers on top of him only because I have more word of that happening other than Knux's.

It actually makes his story more absurd since that would be the first thing he would do if he caught me placing TNT, not joining in. That's even if you dismiss all of the other factors of the screenshots I gave too, such as: the timing, the perspective (btw he couldn't have joined in because if you look at the screenshots + the timestamps, you see me walking in and he's already placing TNT), and everything else.

I'm not sure why you would be placing TNT, especially underneath the castle, and his reaction to you coming in means that you weren't there already with him to begin with, so I don't believe you were both there at the same time, although I'm not quite sure of this because the information on this is so skewed I can't even tell. Were you both placing the TNT as a joke? Did you walk in on Knux placing the TNT? I've been getting mixed reports from a few sources and I'm not sure who to believe at this point.

No, I figured he'd make up excuses so I didn't want him derailing the chat. I've already said this.

<GhostHawk> caught him griefing and I don't want him spreading anything
<DatDude> It was ghost
* DatDude has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
<GhostHawk> it's only going to last until Danny gets back

He's unbanned in IRC now that Danny is back, just as I said, and it was successful in preventing him from sending any excuses except for the Panda sent. He's been talking behind my back on nsmbx (thread was deleted or something, Gohan and zeldamaster can testify to it's existence if you don't believe me) about this too accusing me of all of the griefing all the way back to Michel. I'm not going to let him play dirty, whilst ruining my credibility. If I've completely lost my mind and I'm not seeing the same screenshots you guys are seeing, then he'll be able to prove it's me. The thing is, he has no screenshots because he's the one doing it.

So it's perfectly fair for you to ruin his credibility, but if he's ruining your credibility he needs to be banned? Seems fair.

Fair enough of a point, but allow me to say that I'm providing evidence that I am not the one who is griefing and he's the one going around trying to get me demoted and banned. I know it may not be considered the right thing to do, and it probably isn't, but I take it personally when somebody lies about what I have done and gets me in trouble for it and I feel the need to fight back. I tried to keep it fair though by not abusing my power to make it an official ban.

I do remember him attempting that from day one, but regardless you can't always fight fire with fire. Unfortunately the actions you have done have lead up to your temporary demotion, however they weren't severe enough to get you banned nor would I consider that in this case unless you completely destroyed everything, which you haven't.

That's even if you dismiss all of the other factors of the screenshots I gave too, such as: the timing, the perspective (btw he couldn't have joined in because if you look at the screenshots + the timestamps, you see me walking in and he's already placing TNT), and everything else.

We do not get a clear enough picture of any of this from those screenshots to reach any conclusions. Just the same, the fact you did not have TNT is a moot point because that can be easily hidden. As far as I can tell, that screenshot you posted on the last page is also not any proof that Knux had creative. Let's work with legitimate verifiable information here if we can.

I wouldn't say it's moot. As shown in the screenshot, there is an invisible person holding TNT in front of TNT that is already placed that I had just uncovered. Also the only other people online were MurphMario and Nien, what makes it possible to accuse Knux is that he was reacting as it happened (the server logs can confirm this since my screenshots didn't capture all of it), and that I followed him into the area. I wasn't able to screenshot this though, so believe or don't believe it. MurphMario and Nien can also confirm that Knux indeed had creative.

I like to not believe Knux didn't have creative but I'm pretty sure he did, even though I'm fairly certain I took that away as soon as I left. While I don't 100% suspect you of having TNT, like Ignoritus said, it can still be easily hidden. It's hard to tell from the logs besides Knux shouting "PEVIO" that he was reacting to you appearing, although I doubt you were joining in based on his reaction somewhat.

What I'd really like to know is why in all of those screenshots you're running a hack designed for cheating and griefing?
This isn't an accusation by the way, I'd honestly like an explanation.

It makes as good of an OP client as it does a griefing client. So far in the server, I've used: the tracers feature to locate players, the waypoints feature to find spawn and VSMBXVillage, the nuker to clear out a flat surface for the castle and the tunnel used for the subway, xray to look for TNT and command blocks, and fastplace to build the walls around the castle quickly along with the subway. I won't deny it's dangerous, I caught Jimb0v using the nuker to mine dirt to be used to cover up the griefed castle and Michel using the fly and speed mods. Honestly, had everything been working, specifically the radar, none of this discussion would have happened since Knux's name would have shown up. For some reason the 1.8 version is crap, so now I have to get picture perfect screenshots in order to show my innocence.

Also, if I were to grief the server, why would I use TNT when I have the nuker? Doesn't add up.

This is big so I'll divide this up into sections.

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the tracers feature to locate players

That's fine.

the waypoints feature to find spawn and VSMBXVillage

Kind of on edge about that, but I guess it's fine.

the nuker to clear out a flat surface for the castle and the tunnel used for the subway

I'd prefer it if you hadn't of used Nuker since it is suspicious, a lot. WorldEdit is there for a reason, albeit I was a little late to implementing it because of serverside issues, it's still there.

xray to look for TNT and command blocks

Kind of revealing a "secret" here, but Spectator mode works wonders for that.

and fastplace to build the walls around the castle quickly along with the subway

That would explain your insane block-placing speed, however when I questioned that, why didn't you tell me you were using FastPlace? You seemed to cover it up by saying "pretty high" when I asked how high your clicking speed was.

I still have dirt evidence so the only thing I'm doing for now is banning Knux and temporarily demoting you. I would suggest against using hacked clients to deal with operator duties (I thought that was a rule but I think it was only X-Ray packs or mods, I'll have to fix that) in the future. Evidence on either side being innocent/guilty is so skewed that I'm not believing either side right now, and I'm not going to be taking sides unless one of you can sway me in that direction.

[aero]

At this point I'm now deciding on a final verdict and running through the server logs.

When Knux leaves for the final time should be when he's going on a rant about how I did it, thus proving he was the only one reacting to the TNT in the server.

I have to agree with Ignoritus on this. Regardless of him griefing or not, this server has nothing to do with the IRC and there was no real reason to ban him from it. Unless he was spamming or something, I had no intentions of him getting banned from the IRC, something completely unrelated to this server.

Okay, you shut him up, but to prevent him from sending excuses? Okay, not sure why you did that. It's honestly not my problem if he's been talking behind your back, I had no intentions of that and there was no way I could prevent if it actually happened.

Imagine someone does something really stupid, you saw them do it, but you can't exactly prove it 100% but you're being penalized anyway. What I was doing was to prevent him from further trying to discredit me. The best way to say this is that it wasn't a moderation ban, it was a "I'm not letting you get away with this" ban. Since he went to NSMBX originally (I had to be notified by Kep about this), I did what I could to keep it from #smbx.

the only thing I believe is you spawning Creepers on top of him only because I have more word of that happening other than Knux's.

Yes, I was spawning in creepers around Knux. I don't think he clued you in to that I was doing it while he was placing/defacing signs. Doesn't make it right, I'm just saying. Also, I don't know where the other reports are coming from. It may be from previously spawned creepers but Knux was pretty much alone.

I'm not sure why you would be placing TNT, especially underneath the castle, and his reaction to you coming in means that you weren't there already with him to begin with, so I don't believe you were both there at the same time, although I'm not quite sure of this because the information on this is so skewed I can't even tell. Were you both placing the TNT as a joke? Did you walk in on Knux placing the TNT? I've been getting mixed reports from a few sources and I'm not sure who to believe at this point.

This is the timeline of what happened:

Knux was the only one with TNT.
When I confronted him, he shouted my name.
I spammed the screenshot button.
He placed a redstone torch and blew up the TNT.
He accused me in all caps.
Nien, Murph, and I patched up the castle while Knux joined and left badmouthing me.

I do remember him attempting that from day one, but regardless you can't always fight fire with fire. Unfortunately the actions you have done have lead up to your temporary demotion, however they weren't severe enough to get you banned nor would I consider that in this case unless you completely destroyed everything, which you haven't.

That's fair.

I like to not believe Knux didn't have creative but I'm pretty sure he did, even though I'm fairly certain I took that away as soon as I left. While I don't 100% suspect you of having TNT, like Ignoritus said, it can still be easily hidden. It's hard to tell from the logs besides Knux shouting "PEVIO" that he was reacting to you appearing, although I doubt you were joining in based on his reaction somewhat.

If you look around you'll see him talking about how if you run then fly you can fly faster, which implies he was flying. Unfortunately, I don't have screenshots of him flying around since I didn't know he wasn't supposed to be able to. You could always have him join for a second and hit him. If he doesn't get hit, he had creative if he does get hit then he's fine and I'm going nuts.

This is big so I'll divide this up into sections.

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the tracers feature to locate players

That's fine.

the waypoints feature to find spawn and VSMBXVillage

Kind of on edge about that, but I guess it's fine.

the nuker to clear out a flat surface for the castle and the tunnel used for the subway

I'd prefer it if you hadn't of used Nuker since it is suspicious, a lot. WorldEdit is there for a reason, albeit I was a little late to implementing it because of serverside issues, it's still there.

xray to look for TNT and command blocks

Kind of revealing a "secret" here, but Spectator mode works wonders for that.

and fastplace to build the walls around the castle quickly along with the subway

That would explain your insane block-placing speed, however when I questioned that, why didn't you tell me you were using FastPlace? You seemed to cover it up by saying "pretty high" when I asked how high your clicking speed was.

I'll use it sparingly or not at all if you want. For the last one, that's what the mod does. It makes my place speed high, I thought that's what you were getting at.

I still have dirt evidence so the only thing I'm doing for now is banning Knux and temporarily demoting you. I would suggest against using hacked clients to deal with operator duties (I thought that was a rule but I think it was only X-Ray packs or mods, I'll have to fix that) in the future. Evidence on either side being innocent/guilty is so skewed that I'm not believing either side right now, and I'm not going to be taking sides unless one of you can sway me in that direction.

Well you've seen my screenshots so far, griefing happens each time Knux is online, Knux's story doesn't make sense, Knux is the one trying to defame me while I'm presenting evidence like I was asked to, and each time I'm online usually I and sometimes other OPs are cleaning up messes which would defeat the purpose of griefing. As you've said, Knux doesn't have any screenshots and when something happens he accuses me immediately.

All Knux has is this: http://knuxforum.wikia.com/wiki/8bit_Mi ... ontroversy and that text he sent Panda.

As you've seen it's pretty difficult to get hard hitting screenshots for proof, especially for stuff like Michel was doing where he moves out of frame constantly or Jimb0v using the nuker (if you don't know nothing can be visually captured because blocks just disappear around the player and that can't be screenshotted), oh and the ban part I already apologized for after Jimb0v was banned since it's likely he put the griefed items in his chest but suddenly now that wasn't evidence so whatever. Until he griefs again, this is all I can do for you in terms of proving him guilty and myself innocent. I'll be PMing you more information as time goes by so nothing gets skewed.

[Vinyl Scratch]

It's a secret to everybody
(New screenshot of this minigame thing I'm working on)