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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby dragonfan96 » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:12 pm

castlewars wrote:
dragonfan96 wrote:[Does Dadane evolve? (the pokemon Bonnie carries)

whats the bird Pokemon of kalos? if anything i got a swellow(lv21) to "deposit"

lastly, whats a protean? is it like protein?
1. If you mean Clemont's Dedenne, then no, it doesn't. Dedenne can't evolve.
2. The Fletchling line.
3. Protean is the Froakie line's and Kecleon's HA. It allows it to change its type to the move it is using, thus it gains STAB from all moves it uses. I have a Protean Greninja.
If only the dream entralink was still available....
could Greninja learn poison jab? to counter Fairy-type

ok so there's froakie(frogider,greninja),dedenne,fletchling bird, flabebe,bunnerby,and some fire-type... Darmanitan?(i have two with Zen Mode(HA?) one was the Relic castle other was upon natural from its stage I evolution)

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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby Julia Pseudo » Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:24 pm

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You don't get hidden abilities via the Dream World in Gen 6, instead you can obtain them in certain "unusual" encounters (such as in the end-game Friend Safari, where you can get Frogadier with Protean if you have the right safari, or in Horde Encounters where you fight 5 Pokémon at once).

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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby HeroLinik » Sun Oct 19, 2014 4:25 am

dragonfan96 wrote:could Greninja learn poison jab? to counter Fairy-type
No, it can't learn Poison Jab. If it could, then it would be impractical anyway because Greninja is supposed to be a special sweeper, and Poison Jab is a physical move. You'd be best getting around the Protean ability to change its typing to something other than Dark to counter its Fairy weakness, and for that matter, Bug and Fighting type. A neat little trick to using the Protean ability is to wait for a Pokemon to use a move like Shadow Force to go into the semi-invulnerable state, and while it is in that state, use a move like Dark Pulse just to change its type to resist that move.

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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby Julia Pseudo » Sun Oct 19, 2014 1:40 pm

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I've actually seen physical Greninja used a bit. Its attack is only a little lower than its special attack (95 compared to 103) and it has a great physical movepool. If you're using a Protean Greninja especially, Poison Jab would probably be a pretty good choice.

...wait, upon further investigation, Greninja can't learn Poison Jab in the first place. Sorry. Physical Greninja is not unviable though.

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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby dragonfan96 » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:20 pm

Darn...I used more Physical moves than special on SOME types like poison..and considering Poison-type is an advantage against fairy type

Hrmmm, what if i got Fenniken and Pokebank'd a Crogunk(toxicroak)

is there ANY "good" poison-type pokemon?
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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby Julia Pseudo » Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:03 am

There are lots of good Poison-type Pokémon, actually. Both Tentacruel and Toxicroak are members of the UnderUsed tier (second highest "normal" tier) in Smogon's competitive scene, for example.

In OverUsed, the highest "normal" tier, you could use Gengar, Amoongus, Scolipede... Poison type is great overall defensively.

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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby dragonfan96 » Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:59 am

Pseudo-dino wrote:There are lots of good Poison-type Pokémon, actually. Both Tentacruel and Toxicroak are members of the UnderUsed tier (second highest "normal" tier) in Smogon's competitive scene, for example.

In OverUsed, the highest "normal" tier, you could use Gengar, Amoongus, Scolipede... Poison type is great overall defensively.

I;d use either Gengar or Scolipede.....(srry bout the "potion-type" i blame auto correct :p)

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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby HeroLinik » Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:11 pm

dragonfan96 wrote:I;d use either Gengar or Scolipede.....(srry bout the "potion-type" i blame auto correct :p)
Use Gengar. He has superb special stats, excellent speed, and a Mega. The Mega form is a great trapper due to its Shadow Tag Ability, and he's also immune to Normal-type moves due to its part Ghost type. Scolipede on the other hand is quite bulky, but it's only useful once it has Speed Boost, but then its stat distribution is quite poor and it doesn't really learn many good Poison moves. It's only good for being defensive, but then that's it really.

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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby dragonfan96 » Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:50 pm

castlewars wrote:
dragonfan96 wrote:I;d use either Gengar or Scolipede.....(srry bout the "potion-type" i blame auto correct :p)
Use Gengar. He has superb special stats, excellent speed, and a Mega. The Mega form is a great trapper due to its Shadow Tag Ability, and he's also immune to Normal-type moves due to its part Ghost type. Scolipede on the other hand is quite bulky, but it's only useful once it has Speed Boost, but then its stat distribution is quite poor and it doesn't really learn many good Poison moves. It's only good for being defensive, but then that's it really.

Where or how does it get a MEGA power?


if you train a venipede it can be a powerful pokemon(i love to EV train my pokemon....even if it takes a while)....Gengar i could have Shadow Ball, Poison Jab, Dark Pulse,Engery Ball

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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby HeroLinik » Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:10 am

dragonfan96 wrote: Where or how does it get a MEGA power?


if you train a venipede it can be a powerful pokemon(i love to EV train my pokemon....even if it takes a while)....Gengar i could have Shadow Ball, Poison Jab, Dark Pulse,Engery Ball
"MEGA power"? I think you mean Mega Evolution. When you say that a Pokemon has a Mega it means that it has the capability of Mega Evolving in battle. Gengar is one of them, and its ability traps Pokemon in battle, so with a bit of skill you can breed Perish Song onto him and use him as a Perish Trapper.

Also, using Poison Jab on Gengar is a waste if you ask me, because Gengar is Special-based. Use Sludge Bomb instead. This is the moveset my Gengar runs:

Will-O-Wisp (to cripple physical sweepers)
Shadow Ball (coverage + STAB boost)
Sludge Bomb (coverage + STAB boost, can poison foes as well)
Dazzling Gleam (for Dark types)

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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby dragonfan96 » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:11 am

castlewars wrote:
dragonfan96 wrote: Where or how does it get a MEGA power?


if you train a venipede it can be a powerful pokemon(i love to EV train my pokemon....even if it takes a while)....Gengar i could have Shadow Ball, Poison Jab, Dark Pulse,Engery Ball
"MEGA power"? I think you mean Mega Evolution. When you say that a Pokemon has a Mega it means that it has the capability of Mega Evolving in battle. Gengar is one of them, and its ability traps Pokemon in battle, so with a bit of skill you can breed Perish Song onto him and use him as a Perish Trapper.

Also, using Poison Jab on Gengar is a waste if you ask me, because Gengar is Special-based. Use Sludge Bomb instead. This is the moveset my Gengar runs:

Will-O-Wisp (to cripple physical sweepers)
Shadow Ball (coverage + STAB boost)
Sludge Bomb (coverage + STAB boost, can poison foes as well)
Dazzling Gleam (for Dark types)

how can Gengar learn fairy-type? wait.....its a "shadow" of clefable...that makes sense

Its not a waste if it has the right nature/characteristic and some EV training..Which i do i have a lv100 Gaspar(Gengar) it has Shadow Claw,Poison Jab, Dark Pulse, Psychic

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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby HeroLinik » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:51 am

dragonfan96 wrote:Its not a waste if it has the right nature/characteristic and some EV training..Which i do i have a lv100 Gaspar(Gengar) it has Shadow Claw,Poison Jab, Dark Pulse, Psychic
The ideal nature that you want for a mixed Gengar is anything that doesn't affect its Attack or Sp. Attack stats. So in other words, Adamant and Modest are out of the question. You should go for a Speed nature, and so the nature I'd recommend is either Hasty or Naive for your Gengar. What nature is yours?

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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby dragonfan96 » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:00 pm

castlewars wrote:
dragonfan96 wrote:Its not a waste if it has the right nature/characteristic and some EV training..Which i do i have a lv100 Gaspar(Gengar) it has Shadow Claw,Poison Jab, Dark Pulse, Psychic
The ideal nature that you want for a mixed Gengar is anything that doesn't affect its Attack or Sp. Attack stats. So in other words, Adamant and Modest are out of the question. You should go for a Speed nature, and so the nature I'd recommend is either Hasty or Naive for your Gengar. What nature is yours?

Well, i got 2 Gengars actually the one that's at lv 100 is Hasty Nature and "Proud of its power" characteristic
The second one is at lv 85

Stats of Gengar Lv100 (male)(hasty nature)

Stats of Gengar lv85(female)-Nature: Quiet Characteristic: Good Endurance

HP: 254

HP: 207

ATK: 200

ATK: 132

DEF:149

DEF: 141

SP.ATK: 280

SP.ATK: 262

SP.DEF:182

SP. DEF: 152

Speed:301

SPEED : 209

Moveset- hypnosis,dream eater, nightmare comfuse ray (obtained from GTS at lv 40)


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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby HeroLinik » Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:00 pm

OK, so to keep with the Halloween theme and my competitive build I just hatched myself a Modest Litwick with perfect IVs in Defense, Speed and Sp. Atk. In effect, it's a flawless special-based Litwick, but I've read on other sites that some people prefer to run Timid Litwick. I'm planning to run either a Flame Orb or Choice Scarf Trick set in order to cheat the Battle Maison and beat my existing streak of 108, and I don't really want to go through breeding Chandelure again to get a Timid Litwick, especially as my Modest Litwick is flawless.

What do you think, guys? Should I run a Modest or Timid Chandelure?

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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby dragonfan96 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:33 pm

castlewars wrote:OK, so to keep with the Halloween theme and my competitive build I just hatched myself a Modest Litwick with perfect IVs in Defense, Speed and Sp. Atk. In effect, it's a flawless special-based Litwick, but I've read on other sites that some people prefer to run Timid Litwick. I'm planning to run either a Flame Orb or Choice Scarf Trick set in order to cheat the Battle Maison and beat my existing streak of 108, and I don't really want to go through breeding Chandelure again to get a Timid Litwick, especially as my Modest Litwick is flawless.

What do you think, guys? Should I run a Modest or Timid Chandelure?
I'd stick with modest so that you have a great defense against physical attacks...Sp.Atk will maximize the damage you'll do to MOST fire-type moves

However i dont know why you'd give litwick a flame orb if it'll just burn you....

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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby HeroLinik » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:10 am

dragonfan96 wrote:
castlewars wrote:OK, so to keep with the Halloween theme and my competitive build I just hatched myself a Modest Litwick with perfect IVs in Defense, Speed and Sp. Atk. In effect, it's a flawless special-based Litwick, but I've read on other sites that some people prefer to run Timid Litwick. I'm planning to run either a Flame Orb or Choice Scarf Trick set in order to cheat the Battle Maison and beat my existing streak of 108, and I don't really want to go through breeding Chandelure again to get a Timid Litwick, especially as my Modest Litwick is flawless.

What do you think, guys? Should I run a Modest or Timid Chandelure?
I'd stick with modest so that you have a great defense against physical attacks...Sp.Atk will maximize the damage you'll do to MOST fire-type moves

However i dont know why you'd give litwick a flame orb if it'll just burn you....
Oh wait, never mind. I just found out that you can't get Trick on Litwick in Gen VI, but you can only get it via Move Tutor in Gen V. Trick Flame Orb Chandelure was a strategy that I used in the PWT and the idea was that I attached the Flame Orb to Chandelure, who doesn't get burned because it's Fire-type, and then Trick it onto the opponent, burning them. It works well especially if I'm Tricking it onto a physical Pokemon. Here's what I've done instead of the Flame Orb set, going for hyper offense instead of hyper speed:

Chandelure @ Life Orb
Nature: Modest (+SpA, -Atk)
EVs: 252 Spe / 252 SpA / 6 SpD
-Shadow Ball
-Energy Ball
-Flamethrower
-Calm Mind

I don't really care about the HP reduction due to the Life Orb though, but any other sets are welcome.

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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby Blake Izayoi » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:17 pm

Who picked a Charamander as a starter in Pokemon X-Y?
(I did.I named it Charchar.Got a Bulbasaur from a friend.Named him Bulba.)

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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby dragonfan96 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:37 pm

doomoocv wrote:Who picked a Charamander as a starter in Pokemon X-Y?
(I did.I named it Charchar.Got a Bulbasaur from a friend.Named him Bulba.)
I thought x and Y starters was Chespin Fenniken and Froakie

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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby Julia Pseudo » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:34 pm

doomoocv wrote:Who picked a Charamander as a starter in Pokemon X-Y?
(I did.I named it Charchar.Got a Bulbasaur from a friend.Named him Bulba.)
Yeah, I also chose Charmander in Y.

And, dragonfan, you acquire a Gen 1 starter fairly early on in X & Y along with your Gen 6 starter.

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Re: Pokémon Topic

Postby zioy » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:55 pm

Froakie+Charmander

Top pick

Add a Skiddo

Champ team in the making ;)

Now competitively, no way.


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