M8: Mango Tango - Night 5

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:58 pm

Yeah but Blue and KoolKat should promise not to do such a bs again.
I mean atleast they're dead atm.

Zeldamaster12 · Postby **Zeldamaster12** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:03 pm

Well, I was in their alliance in M7, but that wan't until later. I understand your frustrations, but aren't you guys being a little too harsh?

zioy · Postby **zioy** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:03 pm

I'm all for a reroll

Being a tp sucks

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:05 pm

But KoolKat not so much bc he played really well while he did.

Btw, was it intended to have this false tactic of dodging the VL or was it an accident?

Postby **Magna** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:09 pm

I want a reroll because I want a second chance.

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:15 pm

Also Nien I think you should alter the VLs role so you aren't allowed to use any codes and the word has to atleast have a certain length.

Zeldamaster12 · Postby **Zeldamaster12** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:16 pm

Yeah, the code speaking was getting obnoxious.

qig · Postby **qig** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:16 pm

8bitmushroom wrote:
qig wrote:secret channels and alliances aren't against any rules according to joey, so i'm not sure why the existence of those are an issue.
They aren't, but using alliances and secret channels to leak information about the game, especially right in the beginning of it, shouldn't be allowed.

The Third Party is up against the Mafia and the Town, they can ally, but whoever they side with makes it easier for the Mafia/Town to target who is who and lynch/kill them early on if their identities are leaked, which they were.

and how exactly do you plan on regulating whether or not people use alliances or secret channels to leak info about the game? You can't. Rerolling doesn't fix the problem, banning certain people doesn't fix the problem. The problems with the mafia games are problems that are inherent to having a mafia game being played by a bunch of 14 year olds.

Let me reiterate this fact: The only reason a reroll is being considered in the first place is because Igno got angry his role was leaked and whined at Nien. It has nothing to do with secret alliances or the game being shit.

Ignoritus · Postby **Ignoritus** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:19 pm

qig wrote: Let me reiterate this fact: The only reason a reroll is being considered in the first place is because Igno got angry his role was leaked and whined at Nien. It has nothing to do with secret alliances or the game being shit.

Actually, I never said a word to Nien. It was his idea.

But we can enforce your reality entirely made from presumption and poor opinion of me rather than any actual evidence or fact instead if you'd like.

qig · Postby **qig** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:25 pm

Ignoritus wrote:
qig wrote: Let me reiterate this fact: The only reason a reroll is being considered in the first place is because Igno got angry his role was leaked and whined at Nien. It has nothing to do with secret alliances or the game being shit.
Actually, I never said a word to Nien. It was his idea.

But we can enforce your reality entirely made from presumption and poor opinion of me rather than any actual evidence or fact instead if you'd like.

except for the fact that
1) the only major role that was leaked was yours
2) nien has shown bias towards you in regards to this game already

Ignoritus · Postby **Ignoritus** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:27 pm

qig wrote:
Ignoritus wrote:
qig wrote: Let me reiterate this fact: The only reason a reroll is being considered in the first place is because Igno got angry his role was leaked and whined at Nien. It has nothing to do with secret alliances or the game being shit.
Actually, I never said a word to Nien. It was his idea.

But we can enforce your reality entirely made from presumption and poor opinion of me rather than any actual evidence or fact instead if you'd like.
except for the fact that
1) the only major role that was leaked was yours
2) nien has shown bias towards you in regards to this game already

I'm not Nien and thus can not lay claim to state the reasoning behind his decision. But you actively accused me of getting angry and whining at Nien. This never happened. I'm annoyed at what happened, yes, but I'm currently handling it in another manner. A much more mature one than asking Nien to simply restart the game for me.

Also, please show me where Nien has shown bias towards me in this game?

qig · Postby **qig** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:31 pm

Ignoritus wrote: Also, please show me where Nien has shown bias towards me in this game?

You have 0 posts in the sign up thread. So why exactly are you even part of this game? Don't answer that question btw, it's rhetorical.

Zeldamaster12 · Postby **Zeldamaster12** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:33 pm

Didn't he go as far as giving away someone else's role for you?

Ignoritus · Postby **Ignoritus** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:35 pm

qig wrote:
Ignoritus wrote: Also, please show me where Nien has shown bias towards me in this game?

You have 0 posts in the sign up thread. So why exactly are you even part of this game? Don't answer that question btw, it's rhetorical.

I joined over Steam. Also, asking a pointed question with a totally reasonable answer and then saying it's rhetorical and not to answer it sure is a good way to look good in an argument, am I right? If there's an issue with me joining over Steam then I'm sorry. I'll be sure to join via the thread next time. I was busy at the time and didn't want to stop and find the thread.

Zeldamaster12 wrote:Didn't he go as far as giving away someone else's role for you?

Huh? Absolutely not. I don't think any host has ever gone so far as to give away game information.

Zeldamaster12 · Postby **Zeldamaster12** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:36 pm

You misunderstood me, or I worded it wrong. Nien gave away somebody else's place in the game for you (Anphiba).

Ignoritus · Postby **Ignoritus** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:40 pm

Zeldamaster12 wrote:You misunderstood me, or I worded it wrong. Nien gave away somebody else's place in the game for you (Anphiba).

Anphiba was never on the list. There was one slot left and then I asked Nien over Steam. Anphiba then posted in the thread before Nien updated it.

Danny · Postby **Danny** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:42 pm

qig wrote:The problems with the mafia games are problems that are inherent to having a mafia game being played by a bunch of 14 year olds.

And are you expecting any better since this is the SMBX community we're talking about? It's chock-full of 14 year olds, I don't think complaining and blaming all of them for playing the game.

<Danny> the problem isn't the age group per se
<Danny> age of the players or w/e
<Danny> it's their sportsmanship

Zeldamaster12 · Postby **Zeldamaster12** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:42 pm

Well it appeared that way because Nien said he was replacing him with you.

Still though, I honestly think you should've posted in the thread rather than asking on Steam.

qig · Postby **qig** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:43 pm

Zeldamaster12 wrote:Well it appeared that way because Nien said he was replacing him with you.

Still though, I honestly think you should've posted in the thread rather than asking on Steam.

He should of, but Nien (and his amazing hosting skills) gives igno special treatment.

Ignoritus · Postby **Ignoritus** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:44 pm

Zeldamaster12 wrote:Well it appeared that way because Nien said he was replacing him with you.

Still though, I honestly think you should've posted in the thread rather than asking on Steam.

I didn't think it would cause a big issue. In the future I'll be sure to.