M38 TAKE TWO: The Mafia Returns (TOWN VICTORY)

[ShadowStarX]

Wouldn't Pseudo had to have been killed by a thug, since her name appears black and a thug is the only role that can paint someone's name black?

Um Pseudo's death confirms that there is a thug but aside from that we don't know much.

But the fact that Jacob was the Crier shows that he wasn't killed by visiting the retired hitman but the SK/Mafia killed him.
Also, let's hope Pseudo was TP attempting to kill Retired Hitman or a Mafia killed by the SK.

[Thehelmetguy1]

I am seriously starting to think a mafia managed to get in the alliance. I assume Pseudo wasn't a blue, right Shroom?

[ShadowStarX]

Let's list a few possible scenarios about Pseudo:
- If she was the Serial Killer, she might have targeted the retired hitman who used their ability
- If she was Mafia, they might have had an idea that she's going to be inspected so she got painted and now killed by the SK
- If she was a Townsperson, the mafia might have done the same thing for similar reasons and she was killed by the SK in this scenario as well. (like, why would the mafia kill someone who's a suspect even if they're a good player)

So at least we can assume that there are barely any possibilities of her being a blue. (unless she was doctor and accidentally visited the Retired Hitman but that's highly unlikely since the doctor would probably protect someone inside the alliance and I also have a feeling that the jailkeeper is the protective role that is still alive) And Shroom would've pointed that out for us.

After these, I think it's safe to assume that PixelPest was Millwright.

What do you think?

[Cedur]

Pseudo wasn't blue (as I said, she was supposed to be inspected). Also I wasn't able to strategize anything yesterday evening so I also don't know who the jailor protected. Fact is: Both the jailor and sheriff are still alive, but there's no point with the jailor protecting the sheriff due to the simultaneous roleblock.

I'll try to make further suspicion analysis whenever I can.

[PersonNamedUser]

Well shit, we lost another blue? Even though that sucks atleast it wasn't the Sheriff or Jailer. As for who Pseudo was, i feel it's more likely that he's a townie
rather than mafia, though we can never be %100 certain in this kind of situation.

[MECHDRAGON777]

Can the retired Hitman kill the serial killer. I wish the crier was alive though. Also, of Psuedo was meant to be I spected, bit is now dead, and the sheriff is alive, would the Sheriff be able to inspect her, even if she is dead?

[Cedur]

^ The painting wears off so that wouldn't even be necessary.

I hope the day phase gets extended enough. Again, I was busy and monitored the full evening so I didn't have any time to think through the recent happenings, or even think of suspicions. One thing that is sure though is to not lynch ShadowStar not only because he appears innocent to me, but also because the godfather really is the lowest priority threat.

[Thehelmetguy1]

I don't think we have any leads, right?

[PersonNamedUser]

I don't think we have any leads, right?

unfortunately, we don't.

[Danny]

Day phase ends 8 PM EST on the 23rd, so it's a bit longer than usual.

[Cedur]

Also, townspeople need to report if they were driven, unless ZM was the driver. Same with silencing.

[ShadowStarX]

Well, I wouldn't consider these solid leads since these are only slight suspicions:
Sanct and Waddle Derp have been acting rather carefully and quietly, at least from my perspective.
There is also the fact that Mechdragon doesn't really act mechdragon-like, so I'd also consider that kinda weird. (even though mechdragon is IMPOSSIBLE to read, so making leads against him or prooving his innocence is always hard)

I personally suggest Shroom and the blue alliance to discuss this and decide what to do.

[Cedur]

Welp, inactivity is a larger problem in this game overall.

TNT has offered himself to replace Ness-Wednesday. I guess there's no problem with that since he died N1.

Waddle Derp is also not saying anything in fact.

Sanct is a wildcard, I've mostly seen him bandwagoning on RSuper and PixelPest. Not sure about practicalshorty.

Mega, thg1, Mosaic and Mech I'd all lean to consider innocent. They haven't done anything conspicuous, they mostly supported the alliance, and Mosaic has complained about the way RSuper was lynched, I'd guess someone scum wouldn't do that while the game's still lasting.

Pseudo was the one I considered most suspicious until last night, alongside maybe PPX because it seemed like they were agreeing on many things, but I'd definitely hold that off until we know Pseudo's cardflip. And even if Pseudo flips red or yellow, it doesn't necessarily have to be a bad sign for PPX. In fact, PPX's logic has been more sound with PixelPest's, and PP was most likely town.

[Thehelmetguy1]

Well, we have to lynch someone each day, otherwise we risk losing an important person.
Btw am I the only one that noticed Ness-Wednesday hasn't done a single post the last phases yet wasn't replaced?

[PersonNamedUser]

Maybe you were, i didn't actually notice.

The thing i find odd about that is the fact that, wouldn't he have been replaced for inactivity by now? If he hasn't, that means he's doing something
in PMs, course, we shouldn't just be quick to assume he's mafia off of that alone, we'd need better evidence.

[Cedur]

Danny already said a couple of times he wants to replace him. He's just not sure on who / hasn't decided yet.

[PersonNamedUser]

oh yeah forgot about that, i already had some kind of suspcision on sanct though because of the fact that he's barely posted yet hasn't been replaced yet,
it's just a bit of suspicion, i don't think it's enough to cast a vote on him or anyone yet.

[Julia Pseudo]

Also, of Psuedo was meant to be I spected, bit is now dead, and the sheriff is alive, would the Sheriff be able to inspect her, even if she is dead?

Just to be clear, the Sheriff cannot inspect dead players, nor can any ability target dead players unless stated otherwise.

[Thehelmetguy1]

Should we lynch Ness-Wednesday since we won't lose a lot by doing so?
After all, Danny said that if no one votes each day, someone will be randomly lynched, and we risk losing someone important

[PersonNamedUser]

I honestly don't want to take that huge of a risk, so, unless something comes up soon, i'm going vote for Ness-Wednesday.