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Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:20 pm
by ElectriKong
Uchiha Madara wrote:King of Eterity wrote:PixelPest wrote:
If it works in 1.3.0.2 it'll be compatible with 2.0 so don't worry; it'll be fine
What if the level uses dummy blocks/BGOs/NPCs that are used in 2.0 for new NPCs?
The judges will probably be using SMBX 2.0 to judge, so it does not matter if the user made his level in SMBX 1.3.1, SMBX 1.3.2 or SMBX 2.0.
The only thing that can become impossible is to test a level from a higher version in some of the other lower versions.
If a 1.3 level makes use of these dummy blocks/BGOs/NPCs, then it won't work properly in 2.0 because of how they were used to add new things. Basically the dummy blocks were originally just for visual additions but 2.0 has used them so that new blocks are not just different graphics, same goes for the BGOs and NPCs.
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:26 pm
by Emral
Uchiha Madara wrote:King of Eterity wrote:PixelPest wrote:
If it works in 1.3.0.2 it'll be compatible with 2.0 so don't worry; it'll be fine
What if the level uses dummy blocks/BGOs/NPCs that are used in 2.0 for new NPCs?
The judges will probably be using SMBX 2.0 to judge, so it does not matter if the user made his level in SMBX 1.3.1, SMBX 1.3.2 or SMBX 2.0.
The only thing that can become impossible is to test a level from a higher version in some of the other lower versions.
Wrong. 1.3.0.2, or rather, Lunalua, was updated more frequently than 2.0. Current nightlies of lunalua include shader support and path/level.visible fields for the overworld, for example. Using Beta 3 is the safest option with literally no risk involved.
King of Eterity wrote:What if the level uses dummy blocks/BGOs/NPCs that are used in 2.0 for new NPCs?
Then the designer of that level is an idiot and deserves to be disqualified for trying to boycott future compatibility with the engine? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:54 pm
by MECHDRAGON777
Enjl wrote:
Then the designer of that level is an idiot and deserves to be disqualified for trying to boycott future compatibility with the engine? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Is there not a clever way to get around it though?
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:14 am
by Black Mamba
tfw ur contest level gets corrupted hahaha
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:03 pm
by ElectriKong
I know this may be a stupid question but are local APIs the same APIs you would include in the LuaScriptsLib except called local_API? And would they be included outside with the level or in the level folder?
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:14 pm
by Emral
King of Eterity wrote:I know this may be a stupid question but are local APIs the same APIs you would include in the LuaScriptsLib except called local_API? And would they be included outside with the level or in the level folder?
They're basically a rename to ensure a future update to the API won't break your level. In the level custom assets folder, please.
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:20 pm
by Inspirited
Enjl wrote:King of Eterity wrote:What if the level uses dummy blocks/BGOs/NPCs that are used in 2.0 for new NPCs?
Then the designer of that level is an idiot and deserves to be disqualified for trying to boycott future compatibility with the engine? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Or the devs of 2.0 are the idiots for trying to boycott backwards compatibility. I don't think there was any warning or pop-up that you should not use unused blocks.
Just don't jump to conclusions xD If this actually happens, maybe the designer just didn't know.
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:37 pm
by Emral
Inspirited wrote:Enjl wrote:King of Eterity wrote:What if the level uses dummy blocks/BGOs/NPCs that are used in 2.0 for new NPCs?
Then the designer of that level is an idiot and deserves to be disqualified for trying to boycott future compatibility with the engine? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Or the devs of 2.0 are the idiots for trying to boycott backwards compatibility. I don't think there was any warning or pop-up that you should not use unused blocks.
Just don't jump to conclusions xD If this actually happens, maybe the designer just didn't know.
We're not boycotting towards backwards compatibility. We're in beta. A thing or two might break on restructuring. That kind of stuff being actually used later is simply rational thought.
We won't disqualify for doing this kind of stuff, but my point is,
don't. It's just pointless work for when we put together the episode so I guess if you don't care about this, go ahead i guess. But unlike CC12, that actually DIED from this stuff, we want to release all the levels as a package before the heat death of the universe.
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 1:11 pm
by Inspirited
Alright, sounds fair.
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 1:36 pm
by RhysOwens
Inspirited wrote:Alright, sounds fair.
Are you signing up?
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 1:57 pm
by ElectriKong
RhysOwens wrote:Inspirited wrote:Alright, sounds fair.
Are you signing up?
He has already completed his level
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:01 pm
by ParmaJon
Oh shit, uhh pichu and i will submit a thing hopefully as a team. Dont be suprised if nothing happens tbh
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:01 pm
by Valentine
All of you better fucking finish your levels, or else there will be consequences >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>:((((((((((((((((
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:36 pm
by RhysOwens
Sanct wrote:All of you better fucking finish your levels, or else there will be consequences >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>:((((((((((((((((
You don't wanna be losing your precious points.
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:04 pm
by ElectriKong
Sanct wrote:All of you better fucking finish your levels, or else there will be consequences >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>:((((((((((((((((
Keep calm dude. No need to be salty all the time
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:26 pm
by Cedur
I'm ready to face the death stare
it's the same usual thing with procrastination, you do it because the deadline seems far away first, but there's always something getting into your way
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:41 pm
by HeroLinik
Supershroom wrote:I'm ready to face the death stare
it's the same usual thing with procrastination, you do it because the deadline seems far away first, but there's always something getting into your way
And then the deadline creeps up on you and before you know it, there's only like 2 days until the deadline. Time tends to move faster when you're not thinking about it.
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:43 pm
by glitch4
HeroLinik wrote:Supershroom wrote:I'm ready to face the death stare
it's the same usual thing with procrastination, you do it because the deadline seems far away first, but there's always something getting into your way
And then the deadline creeps up on you and before you know it, there's only like 2 days until the deadline. Time tends to move faster when you're not thinking about it.
the deadline was extended to april 30th ;)
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:41 pm
by Inspirited
^ Aaaaaa thats good i guess, but it's bad too.
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:10 pm
by Emral
Inspirited wrote:^ Aaaaaa thats good i guess, but it's bad too.
elaborate?