M13 - Hectic Hyrule: Heroes vs Villains [TOWN VICTORY]

[Zeldamaster12]

AS IT STANDS, BECAUSE I GOT TO SIT DOWN AND CALCULATE VOTES

1 Prae
5 GLD4

[Danny]

NO ONE CARDFLIPPED YELLOW

You don't know that. And I don't know if somebody did or not. I'll go by what information I have and you can go by which information you have. You don't have to be a dick about it though, or at least that's what I assume you are acting as you typed in capital letters.

^ exactly.

The only one inspected was qig, and he cardflipped green. Nien was Link and therefore nobody else can be inspected.

Who found out Nien was Link? I don't remember that happening before Day 2, and nobody gave me a summary of what the 8-10 pages of guff were.

[Danny]

I'm at a loss here because nobody will give me any information other than yelling at me that nobody cardflipped yellow. Why are we lynching GLD4? Why are you so sure that qig was the only person inspected? Why am I suspicious?

[Mivixion]

You could probably read the posts that say why, that'd help.
Start from the beginning and read everything. It helps. A lot.

[Danny]

You could probably read the posts that say why, that'd help.
Start from the beginning and read everything. It helps. A lot.

I already said I skimmed through them and it seems like it's just back and forth arguing that went around in a circle, not much besides a couple of IRC leaks (oh boy!).

[Danny]

And vote changing, but that didn't seem to important.

[Danny]

I don't really suspect Layla to be Mafia, but he could be.

Quote from IRC last night btw.

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<laylabout> The8bitmushroom
<The8bitmushroom> huh
<The8bitmushroom> hi
<laylabout> I tried to interrogate Praesidium via forum PM
<The8bitmushroom> mhm?
<The8bitmushroom> what results did you get
<laylabout> He's pretty dodgy
<The8bitmushroom> yeah
<The8bitmushroom> idk if I trust anyone yet right now but
* Gatete (~Gatete@142.83-213-192.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) has joined
<laylabout> I asked him if he came into contact with anyone N1 and asked what he was doing
<The8bitmushroom> ANONYMOUS told me that someone told them Praesidium cardflipped yellow
<laylabout> He denies meeting with anyone
<laylabout> alrighty
<The8bitmushroom> it seems kind of dodgy and I gave out the information on my behalf as it's useful to town at this time
<The8bitmushroom> but I'm being seen as suspicious because I gave out information that I myself am still dodgy on
<laylabout> He asked me where the rumors originated, which I told him
<laylabout> And he asked me why I should trust him
<laylabout> Never answered me on what he did
<The8bitmushroom> hm
<The8bitmushroom> I mean we can suspect him
<The8bitmushroom> as possibly being the yellow
<The8bitmushroom> to me I would take the risk, but we have little information to go on
<laylabout> Yeah, I'd definitely see him as a potential suspect
<The8bitmushroom> the thing is, how do we convince people to lynch off praesidium
<laylabout> I know you won't tell me but I feel obligated to ask who told you about link
<The8bitmushroom> I'd need to come up with more proof that he could be yellow
<The8bitmushroom> they didn't tell me who link was, just that it was Link
<laylabout> Yeah
<The8bitmushroom> they said that link had told them that praesidium cardflipped yellow
<The8bitmushroom> whoever link is, however, is someone that anon has to trust
<The8bitmushroom> or vice versa or whatever
<laylabout> By Who said this to you I meant who is "anon"
<The8bitmushroom> oh
<The8bitmushroom> not who is link?
<The8bitmushroom> anon is marina
<laylabout> Yeah
<laylabout> Choco seems to have acquired dirt on night 1 with Navi, is it him?
<The8bitmushroom> is who him
<The8bitmushroom> is choco link?
<laylabout> Anonymous
<The8bitmushroom> anon is marina
<laylabout> Ah
<The8bitmushroom> I don't know who link is, he didn't tell me that
<The8bitmushroom> by "he" I mean marina
<laylabout> I wouldn't be surprised if it's zlaker
<The8bitmushroom> lol this is getting confusing
<The8bitmushroom> link as zlaker or
<The8bitmushroom> zlaker as link
<The8bitmushroom> w/e
<The8bitmushroom> all I know is that we lost a blue and apparently Marina maybe had contact with Link
<The8bitmushroom> if Marina isn't lying
<The8bitmushroom> if Marina isn't lying and he did have contact with Link, Link must have had to trust Marina enough to give him intel
<The8bitmushroom> and Marina must have trusted me to give me that intel
<laylabout> Hard to follow lol
<The8bitmushroom> if marina is lying, not sure if we should suspect him?
<The8bitmushroom> if link is dead we're fucked
<laylabout> Is link the vigi or sheriff
<The8bitmushroom> sheriff
<The8bitmushroom> there is no vigi
<laylabout> Oh
<The8bitmushroom> that's why
<The8bitmushroom> if link is dead
<The8bitmushroom> we're fucked
<The8bitmushroom> the four blues are pretty shitty imo
<laylabout> Idk Joey has brought in the idea of interrogation and that could prove to be handy
<The8bitmushroom> kind of
<The8bitmushroom> though
<The8bitmushroom> the odds of catching the people on at the right time
<The8bitmushroom> unless you were idling and getting logs
<The8bitmushroom> which I was thinking of doing
<laylabout> I could do that during the day
<The8bitmushroom> I was going to idle and get logs while I'm not here
<The8bitmushroom> which might prove effective but people might have secret channels
<The8bitmushroom> but yeah like I said, if Link is dead, we're fucked
<The8bitmushroom> because if we're getting 2 deaths a night
<The8bitmushroom> and then are forced to lynch
<The8bitmushroom> we don't know who is who
<laylabout> With virtually no useful feedback for the town
<The8bitmushroom> lynching will only take us so far
<The8bitmushroom> so will interrogating
<laylabout> It would basically end up as a guess and check for the town
<The8bitmushroom> yeah
<laylabout> I can see why link is heavily needed for the town
<The8bitmushroom> and without a vigi, we're relying only on lynches
<The8bitmushroom> I don't think this game is balanced evenly
<The8bitmushroom> not at all
<laylabout> It's like M2 all over again
<The8bitmushroom> mafia gets a kill
<The8bitmushroom> serial killer gets a kill
<The8bitmushroom> chances are its gonna be a townie
<laylabout> Town has to guess correctly during the day
<The8bitmushroom> yeah
<The8bitmushroom> well this sucks
<The8bitmushroom> I'm going to point that out right now
<The8bitmushroom> should I do it in the Mafia Discussion thread or the game thread
<The8bitmushroom> unless some miracle happens, town is definitely not going to win this game
<laylabout> It would be smart to take out skull kid quickly so we have breathing room
<The8bitmushroom> yeah
<The8bitmushroom> taking out skull kid will give us a few nights to live
<The8bitmushroom> I want to make a suggestion to the town
<The8bitmushroom> it'll probably make me out to be suspicious
<The8bitmushroom> but I'm going to pull a gohan and make a guess
<The8bitmushroom> going by whatever marina told me
<The8bitmushroom> I'll do it in the morning
<The8bitmushroom> basically I'll tell everyone our situation, and that we're fucked
<The8bitmushroom> so if we don't take this risk now and lynch praesidium
<The8bitmushroom> it might be the end for us
<The8bitmushroom> because either way we're fucked
<The8bitmushroom> if we don't lynch him, we'll lose another 2 at night
<laylabout> Assuming link is dead
<The8bitmushroom> yeah
<The8bitmushroom> well
<The8bitmushroom> even then he can only use his ability once a night
<The8bitmushroom> so unless he manages to survive through the 3 nights we need him
<The8bitmushroom> and gives out the information fast enough
<The8bitmushroom> we might be able to make it
<laylabout> I'm torn right now
<The8bitmushroom> laylabout: so here's what I think we should do
<laylabout> Either marina or qig is lying
<The8bitmushroom> this game is bad for the town
<laylabout> Very bad
<The8bitmushroom> no vigi and if link is dead we're screwed
<laylabout> Fucking dumb
<The8bitmushroom> I'll tell everyone in the morning about our current situation regardless if it costs me my own life
<The8bitmushroom> we need to lynch praesidium
<The8bitmushroom> if we don't that could cost us another 2 deaths at night
<laylabout> Yes, potentially
<The8bitmushroom> if we do and it isn't the serial killer, we're fucked
<The8bitmushroom> it's a really bad risk
<The8bitmushroom> but
<The8bitmushroom> if could potentially turn the game for us
<The8bitmushroom> maybe
<The8bitmushroom> you know what
<laylabout> Past mafia games hardly have much risk
<The8bitmushroom> unless the serial killer gets lucky and wipes out the mafia
<The8bitmushroom> the mafia is sure to win
<The8bitmushroom> because once the town is taken care of
<laylabout> Last game was a good step forward when I took one for the town and fake claimed vigi
<The8bitmushroom> all they need to do is nightkill the serial killer
<laylabout> Yes
<laylabout> Many different paths here
<laylabout> Basically tomorrow is a crossroad
<The8bitmushroom> we'll have to see who is killed off

[Zeldamaster12]

For the record, TNT already died.

[Mivixion]

For the record, TNT already died.

And turned up red.

[Danny]

For the record, TNT already died.

When did that happen? I just looked back at it and I saw only the deaths of Nien, Choco, Pseudo, and Nickname.

[Zeldamaster12]

Look at my next post after Day 2 started. I forgot to mention TNT's death, I was in a big hurry.

[DatDude]

Okay, I'm now confused.

[Danny]

Look at my next post after Day 2 started. I forgot to mention TNT's death, I was in a big hurry.

You could have edited that into the original Day 2 post afterward for clarification but whatever, I'm not the host this time around.

Also I'd just like to point out that the lot of you are kind of dumb right now. I come through with information that Praesidium might have been cardflipped yellow, and I get shot down and called suspicious. Choco comes through with a quote saying that GLD4 hasn't used his power yet, everybody bandwagons him. What the actual fuck, guys? Are you thinking at all?

My information about Praesidium could be forged, as somebody said previously, but did you ever stop and think that Choco's could be as well? Not sure why you're all taking his information for granted when I was slapped on the wrists and bitched at that qig was the only one that was inspected (which how can we take that for granted as well?).

I find it kind of funny that people are overlooking that Praesidium is agreeing with a lot of things qig says, because that's kind of suspicious. Not by a lot, but it still is. If it was me, I would agree with someone without making it publicly known, just so I don't seem to be teaming up with anybody.

[Julia Pseudo]

Yes, Zeldamaster, just in case you didn't know, you are fully allowed to edit your own host messages (as long as you make the changes clear), unlike the players.

[RudeGuy]

Why are we lynching GLD4? Why are you so sure that qig was the only person inspected? Why am I suspicious?

Because of this:

Also from zelda...

So Vaati seems to be inactive, or did not decide to use their ability. We know that GLD4 has been inactive. As we saw, GLD4 has an ability. I know the identities of two of the blues, and the third (Nien) is dead. The chance of GLD4 being the last unknown blue seems very slim.

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Why are you so sure that qig was the only person inspected?

Because of this:

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Link's dead.

how do you know this?

i inspected you and yout urned out green im link lets work together

If you were the only person who knew his roll and he dies the second night that makes you very suspicious that could've been edited and you might have shown up red or quoted a previous message and edited it

well, there's other people (bloodedge) who claimed to know who link was.

[Danny]

If GLD4 isn't Vaati, somebody is going to get fucked up.

Changing my vote from Praesidium to GLD4.

[glitch4]

no im not suspisious

[Zeldamaster12]

With 8bit changing his vote, it's an insta!

GLD4 has been lynched!

It is now NIGHT 3! NIGHT 3 will end at 4:30 PM EST, January 4!

[HeroOfRhyme]

by fuck, you were right.

guys, I don't think we should lynch Bloodedge. Ganondorf is the only mafia left in the game, so the Town's chances of winning slightly opened up now. I think I'm actually going to try playing this one out. I'll do my best to figure out who Ganon is, we kill him then we will have no problem with the SK, hopefully. Especially since Prae is a high suspect of it.

8bit, I would like you to work with me on this one. I can trust you since I know who you are.

[MacheTheFerret]

by fuck, you were right.

guys, I don't think we should lynch Bloodedge. Ganondorf is the only mafia left in the game, so the Town's chances of winning slightly opened up now. I think I'm actually going to try playing this one out. I'll do my best to figure out who Ganon is, we kill him then we will have no problem with the SK, hopefully. Especially since Prae is a high suspect of it.

8bit, I would like you to work with me on this one. I can trust you since I know who you are.

So like is no one gonna consider the fact that GLD4 could've been painted?