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Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 3:38 am
by Cedur
Forum rules bars are the easiest thing for short information like this, rather than an extra sticky / announcement thread. They allow every new user to see that requests aren't allowed and that projects must exist before you can post them. (also I was kinda surprised when I saw someone using Sendspace after a long time, but that was enough to show that this warrants to be mentioned too)
Intuition wrote:What I'm about to say shouldn't even be mentioned because it is stated in the forum rules. Please do not backseat moderate. I have seen countless posts of people posting "you need screenshots", or "you kinda need a download link". This also counts as backseat moderate and as such is not allowed. Saying stuff like "Not to backseat moderate, but ..." doesn't excuse it either. There is a report button anyone has access to in order to let the staff know that there's this user doing something wrong. Keep in mind that by saying "don't post" I'm not saying "you're in the way" or "you shouldn't help people out", as in contrary to what most people believe by reporting a message you're already helping that person.
Can I vouch for this again, as it also applies to posts like "I don't think requests are allowed"? As I mentioned back then, I don't really consider it "harmful", but in many cases I consider it pointless and gullible. Of course, no matter how clearly you explain and enforce rules, you'll always get your occasional hit-and-runner who posts a request or who posts "New Super Mario Bros X coming soon, no screenshots sorry, kthxbai", only to disappear forever from the site. You can clearly identify them as hit-and-runners oftentimes and you can clearly see that they only do it to for attention. You shouldn't respond them just like you shouldn't respond to spambots.
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:12 am
by Snessy the duck
HeroLinik wrote:
I brought the second one up right at the start of the topic. Apparently they're going to look into enforcing the rule, but yet again, nothing has been done about it. There seems to be this really bad habit of archiving important announcements just because they have stayed up for a very long time and they'll think we'd have got the message by now, yet the archives are only for stuff that is not relevant anymore or should be preserved, like old contests and funny joke topics like the infamous templets. Even after archiving, new users will come in and post their own levels/request graphics unaware of these rules, and in these cases it's really unfair for new users to be punished for breaking rules they didn't even know about just because it's right at the bottom of the archives and they wouldn't even expect to look in there, especially when the forum description explicitly states it's for topics that aren't relevant.
To be honest, what they need to do is bring back said two announcements, but only have them as announcements to their specific forums, rather than be global across the entire board.
I agree. I think we should really do something about this, cause it's a big problem for new users.
practicalshorty014 wrote:HeroLinik wrote:This is a pretty minor one, but I had a look at the project forum rules and I noticed that there are still references to the now dissolved Level Judges group. Can someone remove them because it might mislead new users?
I actually did some searching, and it turns out that Valtteri is still in the Level Judges group? I'm surprised that group still exists, and that he's still in there.
That's odd. Why haven't they removed it yet?
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:16 am
by HeroLinik
Snessy the duck wrote:That's odd. Why haven't they removed it yet?
I'm guessing they might bring back the Level Judges again in the future, but that's unlikely. They might as well just remove the usergroup entirely even if that's the case.
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:19 am
by MacDuckBeat
Since, Valtteri is the only LJ there. And I guess the level judges might do something on the old level forum (in archieve).
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:27 am
by HeroLinik
RSupertheGreat wrote:Since, Valtteri is the only LJ there. And I guess the level judges might do something on the old level forum (in archieve).
Um, nope. The archive forums are totally locked.
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:40 am
by MacDuckBeat
HeroLinik wrote:RSupertheGreat wrote:Since, Valtteri is the only LJ there. And I guess the level judges might do something on the old level forum (in archieve).
Um, nope. The archive forums are totally locked.
Yea, I knew that lel.
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:47 am
by Snessy the duck
HeroLinik wrote:RSupertheGreat wrote:Since, Valtteri is the only LJ there. And I guess the level judges might do something on the old level forum (in archieve).
Um, nope. The archive forums are totally locked.
They aren't completely locked, I remember there were some archive posts that were edited during this year's Easter Egg hunt.
Also, I don't get why the admins haven't done something about the whole Archived Rules thing, since it's a really big problem. A similar thing is going on in the new level forum, where the rules don't state clearly that you have to put all your levels in the same topic.
Also, why haven't anyone done anything about the Episodes forum description (It still states that featured episodes are a thing).
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:50 am
by Cedur
Snessy the duck wrote:They aren't completely locked, I remember there were some archive posts that were edited during this year's Easter Egg hunt.
because mods can do that. Technically they could still sort the last unreviewed levels but there's barely any point with doing that.
And yes, the staff should answer the points we make, at this point it's just regular users talking :p
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:53 am
by timocomsmbx2345
There was a forum about this site, but apperently, when i said
timocomsbmx2345 wrote:This topic may no longer relevant, but it hasn't been archived, yet.
on the How to use the new characters from 2.0 topic, the forum got archived.
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:54 am
by Snessy the duck
timocomsmbx2345 wrote:There was a forum about this site, but apperently, when i said
What? Seems like you pressed the submit button a bit too early.
Also, I agree with Supershroom, why aren't the admins responding?
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:55 am
by timocomsmbx2345
Snessy the duck wrote:timocomsmbx2345 wrote:There was a forum about this site, but apperently, when i said
What? Seems like you pressed the submit button a bit too early.
Also, I agree with Supershroom, why aren't the admins responding?
you didn't let me finish
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:57 am
by Snessy the duck
timocomsmbx2345 wrote:Snessy the duck wrote:timocomsmbx2345 wrote:There was a forum about this site, but apperently, when i said
What? Seems like you pressed the submit button a bit too early.
Also, I agree with Supershroom, why aren't the admins responding?
you didn't let me finish
What were you going to say?
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:59 am
by timocomsmbx2345
Look at my post at April 14, 2017 at 6:53 A.M.
I was quoting the last post before the Supermariobrosx.org forum got archived.
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:04 pm
by ElectriKong
Snessy the duck wrote:
Also, I don't get why the admins haven't done something about the whole Archived Rules thing, since it's a really big problem. A similar thing is going on in the new level forum, where the rules don't state clearly that you have to put all your levels in the same topic.
Also, why haven't anyone done anything about the Episodes forum description (It still states that featured episodes are a thing).
That is true. I don't know if Joey plans on doing featured episodes again in the future.
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:08 pm
by Thehelmetguy1
I hope featured episodes come back. But this time, the community should vote for the featured episode, instead of Joey choosing it.
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:24 pm
by Emral
thehelmetguy1 wrote:I hope featured episodes come back. But this time, the community should vote for the featured episode, instead of Joey choosing it.
There's only like one good episode per year released though.
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:57 pm
by Shadow Yoshi
What rules are archived that are still pertinent?
There's no official rule that states that you have to put all of your levels in the same topic. It's just what we pushed everyone to do, and now everyone does it and someone who's looking at the forum should be able to see the pattern.
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:51 pm
by Thehelmetguy1
Shadow Yoshi wrote:What rules are archived that are still pertinent?
There's no official rule that states that you have to put all of your levels in the same topic. It's just what we pushed everyone to do, and now everyone does it and someone who's looking at the forum should be able to see the pattern.
Requests and sendspace links not being allowed.(I mean, Sendspace is dead, but many new users request graphics)
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:59 pm
by Shadow Yoshi
Ah. Well, requests would probably be part of a "Graphics forum rules", should the staff ever decide to create that. Sendspace enforcement is up to them too. Wouldn't hurt to have some sort of guide telling people which services to use for various tasks like that.
Re: Site Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:50 pm
by glitch4
thehelmetguy1 wrote:I hope featured episodes come back. But this time, the community should vote for the featured episode, instead of Joey choosing it.
I agree, please get it back