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No, they will not!JulianSteve_18 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:01 pmWill the levels made in the invasion 3 Shadow Star be included?
To go even further on that, you can also use mostly base-game music and .spcs. I do not think custom NPCs would exactly "bloat" the file-size however.DisasterMaster wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:25 pmYou should have very little problem with bloat, at least comparatively to The Invasion 2. When you download SMBX2 right now, it comes with The Invasion 2 as a basegame episode which consists of 2258 files @ 13.1 MBs. Most of those files are .gifs with masks and the actual .lvl files themselves.TLtimelord wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:25 pmI just want to reiterate SSX's talking point about custom npcs and go further down with it. For the sake of filespace I don't actually think we plan on using any custom NPCs at all, maybe one or two levels will have some custom npcs assets at most and I don't even want to promise that. This may be subject to change, but since the goal of this is to be apart of basegame in future versions of SMBX2 then we want to make sure we don't end up bloating the download size.
I’m not sure if you’ve discussed with the devs if your Invasion 3 would replace the current one, but if it is a replacement then it would have to be of comparable size to not be consider “bloated”. This would not be as hard as you may think…
As I mentioned above, I converted all the level files of The Invasion 2 to .lvlx and graphics to .png, which decreased the size to 1751 files @ 6.84 MBs. That’s a 507 file and 6.26 MB decrease to its size, just by those simple steps. You could further decrease that by changing the same custom tilesets used in multiple levels (such as warp 1, warp 2, warp 3, warp 4, warp 8, and warp 9) onto episode custom blocks 751-1000 so that one block could be used over multiple levels while only taking up 1 extra file slot. Depending on how many levels use the same custom blocks, that too could be substantial.
Theoretically, you could create an episode with more levels that would actually be smaller in size than the current basegame Invasion 2.I'd be down with a "Low G Labyrinth" level. If anything, it could help people create that type of effect for their levels by letting them examine the Lua used to make it.
Agreed with you there. Although SPCs are only for SNES music. Luckilly, SMBX2 supports OGG (better and smaller than MP3, and you can loop it) as well as other stuff like NSF (NES) and GYM (Genesis). All the compatible SMBX2 audio formats are here: https://wohlsoft.ru/pgewiki/SDL_Mixer_XMECHDRAGON777 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:15 pmTo go even further on that, you can also use mostly base-game music and .spcs. I do not think custom NPCs would exactly "bloat" the file-size however.
Which specific NPCs are difficult to design around? I'll see if I can make a rough-draft of a level featuring any that you mention.ShadowStarX wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:35 amNot every single basegame SMBX2 feature will be featured (primarily those NPCs that are difficult to design around in a beginner-friendly way)
Frightlight or whatever it's called might be one, I think. I'm not sure how it even works...DisasterMaster wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:53 pmWhich specific NPCs are difficult to design around? I'll see if I can make a rough-draft of a level featuring any that you mention.ShadowStarX wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:35 amNot every single basegame SMBX2 feature will be featured (primarily those NPCs that are difficult to design around in a beginner-friendly way)
Honestly accurate NES graphics as PNGs would be great and appreciated.Murphmario wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:35 pmSomething to point out with the Retroville level; some of the graphics used in it aren't accurate to their original NES counterparts (as an example, the green parts of the tree semisolids had outlines in the original SMB1 but not here for some reason). Would anyone be against me uploading replacement graphics.
Frightlight functions much the same as a Boo, except when you look at it, it'll teleport to another location within the level after staring for a few seconds.Wiimeiser wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:32 pmTo round things out, how about an optional Star World with a night/space/abstract theme?
Frightlight or whatever it's called might be one, I think. I'm not sure how it even works...DisasterMaster wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:53 pmWhich specific NPCs are difficult to design around? I'll see if I can make a rough-draft of a level featuring any that you mention.ShadowStarX wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:35 amNot every single basegame SMBX2 feature will be featured (primarily those NPCs that are difficult to design around in a beginner-friendly way)
Okay, here they are. Feel free to use these for levels and whatnot that aren't related to TI3 as well.ShadowStarX wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:30 amHonestly accurate NES graphics as PNGs would be great and appreciated.Murphmario wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:35 pmSomething to point out with the Retroville level; some of the graphics used in it aren't accurate to their original NES counterparts (as an example, the green parts of the tree semisolids had outlines in the original SMB1 but not here for some reason). Would anyone be against me uploading replacement graphics.
(This is the level that is talked about)
I know that, but it can be tedious with recolors of vanilla graphics, as then the tool is not so useful.Murphmario wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:01 pmOkay, here they are. Feel free to use these for levels and whatnot that aren't related to TI3 as well.ShadowStarX wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:30 amHonestly accurate NES graphics as PNGs would be great and appreciated.Murphmario wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:35 pmSomething to point out with the Retroville level; some of the graphics used in it aren't accurate to their original NES counterparts (as an example, the green parts of the tree semisolids had outlines in the original SMB1 but not here for some reason). Would anyone be against me uploading replacement graphics.
(This is the level that is talked about)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e9lop17eh16c8 ... s.zip?dl=0
Also, you can easily convert GIFs to PNGs via a tool included in PGE. It's under external tools.
Just a couple questions: Is the Auto-Rotate Platforms Grey, and Manual-Rotate Platforms Brown? Or is it just aesthetics?ShadowStarX wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:17 pmOh you think we've forgotten this?! You were wrong!
Anyways, two GIFs showcasing two levels by MrDoubleA, utilizing the difference between autorotate=true and autorotate=false:Also, screenshots of World 1 and World 2 maps are available now:Spoiler: showNote: levels and other assets are subject to change. (in other words, we haven't forgotten the existence of ParalX2, as demonstrated in the 2nd GIF)Spoiler: show
They are indeed meant to be a differentiator.
Thanks!
Huh I actually only noticed that after you pointed that out. Though a key difference is that in this one you go from the bottom to the top. (kinda meant to imitate Yoshi's Island and Donut Plains, minus the Donut Plains lake)MECHDRAGON777 wrote: World 2 reminds me of "The Great Empire". Specifically it's world 2. Curious how that ice map will be done.
