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Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 4:35 pm
by arcade999
Snessy the duck wrote:Why are people critisizing the movie even though it isn't even out yet?

Personally, I'd wait until it gets released to see if it's really shit or actually good.
Because emojis is one of the very worst fandom subject for a movie. Even if the movie is good, the main idea still terrible.

Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:36 pm
by DJFMHD
Spoiler: show
Ness-Wednesday wrote:Okay, I think no one understood what I was saying.
I have quite negative thoughts on what can come up in the final film.
Sure, I do have some vibe on what they've could've done to make it good, but I don't understand what people have against AC even though it was forgotten after 2017 began, at least it had something.
Indeed, people have different types of taste but the literature would have to be the fact that the trailer doesn't represent much which can explain why it's already getting massive hate before it's release two months from now.

But comparing it to a video game (or a video game film), is basically comparing 2003 to 2016.
Although I've seen some gameplay of it, the hate of the game mostly came from the concept of it.
This however can be a close minded thought, I mean it's Paper Mario, the way paint was used in the game was quite clever.
But it can also come up from the previous rants towards Sticker Star and SPM (sure I can understand SPM but I thought it had lots of great events and characters, thus Sticker Star did have some nice gimmicks).
They'll think "Oh hey this one sucked so the next game/film will suck as well," and that's what happened before Color Splash was released.

The same goes for the exact reason why people on the internet (especially from the animation industry) are hating this film.
Most people in public have been treating animated films like they're only meant for kids (which is probably one of if not the most ridiculous things I've heard in cinema history).
This is why (although there are some obvious exceptions especially Chicken Run and Shark Tale) we sometimes get creative films from animation studios like Disney, Pixar, and Dreamworks animation.
But underneath the top studios are the ones who fail to give us truly great films like Lionsgate, Open Road films and the Weinstein company, and sadly Sony Pictures Animation fails to keep itself away from this.

Now look at Shaw from Open Season, the detail on him looks pretty good and even though it isn't 100% accurate (not that every animated films has to show real humans ew) at least it's not terrifyingly crazy like their current designs.
Spoiler: show
Image
And in Surf's Up, the characters don't flop about and they had what they could've done in general today, learn how to correctly execute a concept.
Sure the characters may look bland, but at least the story makes them develop and interact like how a documentary film would do, thus the camera's interactions are very creative as sometimes it will move about and pretend like if the movie was actually a real event that took place in the artic or on an island (like an sports game).
Spoiler: show
Image
You can see how the water reflects towards the camera's axis and how the lighting and shading is done correctly do most of it doesn't blend in.

However, the real fall started when they released Cloudy with a chance of meatballs, although despite some people giving it acclaim because of it's story, some critics weren't pleased about this as the animation was really sloppy and cartoony, despite it having minor gags and colorful food animation the characters and execution were ruining the film overall.
I mean, sure it does look really goofy but how did they forget how to design humans?
Spoiler: show
Image
I don't recall anyone I know who has a potato like nose that was big as Flint Lockwood's.

At least when they worked on both of their Collaborative films Arthur Christmas and Pirates band of misfits with Aardman they did have some creative and nice ideas into them.
But from Hotel Transylvania, this one I have major and mixed thoughts on as the animation is very cartoony and sometimes there are these kid-friendly moments that make the film feel dated.
I respect anyone who likes this film, but what came from most of the community was basically a lot of hate towards this film.
However, the destruction didn't get worse until Cloudy 2 came out, in fact this is their current "style" as of today.
Despite the food animals being well developed and the film being very colorful, the story only repeats itself but changes some parts of the film, and most of the characters were left to become a useless unfortunately now forgettable filler.
And this continued on with their films until Smurfs: the Lost Village, even though it bombed because of the failure of the two Smurfs hybrid films, it had a story that was better than their previously animated films since Cloudy 2 even though it had some mocked parts, and was almost perfectly animated and colored with the only part that the animation doesn't work would be the backgrounds.

With the Emoji Movie, people are hating it this early because the story was quite obvious (heck, it's literally not a story), people are stating it that it's a rip off of Pixar's Inside Out by having the emojis interacting with the human world but instead it shoves this in the viewer's face rather than properly presenting it through the entire film.
They're also upset towards the style the animation only gets a bit of shading and decrease in hue thus making it darker, and the product placements aren't used like in the way it's gene would do, the way Wreck-it-Ralph done it was by reflecting it towards the film and that it's gene/fact had to do with video games.
What you get with the Emoji movie is really just, "Oh hey, this is an i/smartphone we're talking about so we can pretend that advertisement is right in this part" really, what do emojis have to do with YouTube and Candy Crush?
Also, the usage of the poop emoji is a major mess up as references, humor, and/or usage of potty humor have been dying due to them being overused.
It also shows off why memes in a movie being released into theaters are always a bad idea, if that wasn't enough.

That's pretty much the reason why most of the people on the internet are hating the trailers and (so far) the movie itself.
Wow that's a lot you should put that in a spoiler a little annoying.

Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:50 pm
by Artemis008
Mable wrote:
Artemis008 wrote:
glitch4 wrote:The movie isn't out yet, please give it a chance and don't dislike it yet.
It's one of those movies where you just know its gonna bomb. Like that Assassins Creed movie nobody remembers.
"Hey so far we only saw pictures and a trailer but hey, this movie already looks bad even tho we haven't seen the whole one yet"

Also some people actually like the AC one, why talk for everyone when it's not even like that.

Just cause you guys don't like it doesn't mean no one is gonna like it. This is pretty much bandwagoning now.

It somehow a thing in here to call something bad immediatly and not even give it a chance specially reffering to Colour Splash again even tho it's not a movie.
It's a movie about emojis, there is no way to make an interesting and thought provoking plot with a few silly little icons. I wasn't saying everyone hates the AC movie either, I was saying I don't like it and very few people even mentioned it after release.

Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:28 pm
by timocomsmbx2345
Ness-Wednesday wrote:
Spoiler: show
Okay, I think no one understood what I was saying.
I have quite negative thoughts on what can come up in the final film.
Sure, I do have some vibe on what they've could've done to make it good, but I don't understand what people have against AC even though it was forgotten after 2017 began, at least it had something.
Indeed, people have different types of taste but the literature would have to be the fact that the trailer doesn't represent much which can explain why it's already getting massive hate before it's release two months from now.

But comparing it to a video game (or a video game film), is basically comparing 2003 to 2016.
Although I've seen some gameplay of it, the hate of the game mostly came from the concept of it.
This however can be a close minded thought, I mean it's Paper Mario, the way paint was used in the game was quite clever.
But it can also come up from the previous rants towards Sticker Star and SPM (sure I can understand SPM but I thought it had lots of great events and characters, thus Sticker Star did have some nice gimmicks).
They'll think "Oh hey this one sucked so the next game/film will suck as well," and that's what happened before Color Splash was released.

The same goes for the exact reason why people on the internet (especially from the animation industry) are hating this film.
Most people in public have been treating animated films like they're only meant for kids (which is probably one of if not the most ridiculous things I've heard in cinema history).
This is why (although there are some obvious exceptions especially Chicken Run and Shark Tale) we sometimes get creative films from animation studios like Disney, Pixar, and Dreamworks animation.
But underneath the top studios are the ones who fail to give us truly great films like Lionsgate, Open Road films and the Weinstein company, and sadly Sony Pictures Animation fails to keep itself away from this.

Now look at Shaw from Open Season, the detail on him looks pretty good and even though it isn't 100% accurate (not that every animated films has to show real humans ew) at least it's not terrifyingly crazy like their current designs.
Spoiler: show
Image
And in Surf's Up, the characters don't flop about and they had what they could've done in general today, learn how to correctly execute a concept.
Sure the characters may look bland, but at least the story makes them develop and interact like how a documentary film would do, thus the camera's interactions are very creative as sometimes it will move about and pretend like if the movie was actually a real event that took place in the artic or on an island (like an sports game).
Spoiler: show
Image
You can see how the water reflects towards the camera's axis and how the lighting and shading is done correctly do most of it doesn't blend in.

However, the real fall started when they released Cloudy with a chance of meatballs, although despite some people giving it acclaim because of it's story, some critics weren't pleased about this as the animation was really sloppy and cartoony, despite it having minor gags and colorful food animation the characters and execution were ruining the film overall.
I mean, sure it does look really goofy but how did they forget how to design humans?
Spoiler: show
Image
I don't recall anyone I know who has a potato like nose that was big as Flint Lockwood's.

At least when they worked on both of their Collaborative films Arthur Christmas and Pirates band of misfits with Aardman they did have some creative and nice ideas into them.
But from Hotel Transylvania, this one I have major and mixed thoughts on as the animation is very cartoony and sometimes there are these kid-friendly moments that make the film feel dated.
I respect anyone who likes this film, but what came from most of the community was basically a lot of hate towards this film.
However, the destruction didn't get worse until Cloudy 2 came out, in fact this is their current "style" as of today.
Despite the food animals being well developed and the film being very colorful, the story only repeats itself but changes some parts of the film, and most of the characters were left to become a useless unfortunately now forgettable filler.
And this continued on with their films until Smurfs: the Lost Village, even though it bombed because of the failure of the two Smurfs hybrid films, it had a story that was better than their previously animated films since Cloudy 2 even though it had some mocked parts, and was almost perfectly animated and colored with the only part that the animation doesn't work would be the backgrounds.

With the Emoji Movie, people are hating it this early because the story was quite obvious (heck, it's literally not a story), people are stating it that it's a rip off of Pixar's Inside Out by having the emojis interacting with the human world but instead it shoves this in the viewer's face rather than properly presenting it through the entire film.
They're also upset towards the style the animation only gets a bit of shading and decrease in hue thus making it darker, and the product placements aren't used like in the way it's gene would do, the way Wreck-it-Ralph done it was by reflecting it towards the film and that it's gene/fact had to do with video games.
What you get with the Emoji movie is really just, "Oh hey, this is an i/smartphone we're talking about so we can pretend that advertisement is right in this part" really, what do emojis have to do with YouTube and Candy Crush?
Also, the usage of the poop emoji is a major mess up as references, humor, and/or usage of potty humor have been dying due to them being overused.
It also shows off why memes in a movie being released into theaters are always a bad idea, if that wasn't enough.

That's pretty much the reason why most of the people on the internet are hating the trailers and (so far) the movie itself.
That is quite a handful of information right there. Plus, I didn't mind watch Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs & the sequel or Hotel Transylvania at all.

Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:40 pm
by TLtimelord
It's going to be a pandering movie that appeals to the masses by looking cute and making "relatable" characters just like Illumination's "Sing!" The worst part is it will probably make a decent amount of money. Idk though, if the trailer's reception tells me anything it could bomb at the box office or even pulled from production before release.

I really do hope whoever greenlit this is in huge trouble.

Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 11:25 pm
by Mivixion
Artemis008 wrote:It's a movie about emojis, there is no way to make an interesting and thought provoking plot with a few silly little icons.
as much as I agree that the movie is probably gonna suck, I don't think this statement is even remotely true. you could make an amazing movie out of just about anything

Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 12:17 am
by aero
Mivixion wrote:
Artemis008 wrote:It's a movie about emojis, there is no way to make an interesting and thought provoking plot with a few silly little icons.
as much as I agree that the movie is probably gonna suck, I don't think this statement is even remotely true. you could make an amazing movie out of just about anything
I agree and disagree, but what would an amazing emoji movie be?

Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 12:35 am
by Mivixion
i dunno i'm no visionary lol

Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 12:49 am
by Artemis008
Mivixion wrote:
Artemis008 wrote:It's a movie about emojis, there is no way to make an interesting and thought provoking plot with a few silly little icons.
as much as I agree that the movie is probably gonna suck, I don't think this statement is even remotely true. you could make an amazing movie out of just about anything
Eh, I guess you could. That being said, you can't make a GOOD movie about absolutely anything. Every good movie, no matter how far back you go, has some sort of plot and message, I just don't see one here.

Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 4:17 am
by Mable
Artemis008 wrote:I wasn't saying everyone hates the AC movie either, I was saying I don't like it and very few people even mentioned it after release.
You said "that nobody remembers" which from the wording does imply "everyone" if you didn't want to get people confuse you could have said "like that ac movie i and a few others don't remember" cause nobody easily implies all

Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 11:34 am
by Ace
Artemis008 wrote: Eh, I guess you could. That being said, you can't make a GOOD movie about absolutely anything. Every good movie, no matter how far back you go, has some sort of plot and message, I just don't see one here.
It's almost like you didn't even watch the trailer. At all.

Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 4:53 pm
by Knux
Artemis008 wrote:Every good movie, no matter how far back you go, has some sort of plot and message, I just don't see one here.
2001: A Space Odyssey

Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 6:22 pm
by Danny
Knux wrote:
Artemis008 wrote:Every good movie, no matter how far back you go, has some sort of plot and message, I just don't see one here.
2001: A Space Odyssey
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Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 9:06 pm
by DJFMHD
Aero wrote:
Mivixion wrote:
Artemis008 wrote:It's a movie about emojis, there is no way to make an interesting and thought provoking plot with a few silly little icons.
as much as I agree that the movie is probably gonna suck, I don't think this statement is even remotely true. you could make an amazing movie out of just about anything
I agree and disagree, but what would an amazing emoji movie be?
The Lego Movie but with Emojis?

Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:47 pm
by timocomsmbx2345
But what if that movie DIDN'T bomb?
also,
glitch4 wrote:
Artemis008 wrote:
glitch4 wrote:The movie isn't out yet, please give it a chance and don't dislike it yet.
It's one of those movies where you just know its gonna bomb. Like that Assassins Creed movie nobody remembers.
How do you know it's gonna bomb? Did your friends told you they will not see it?
I know it's gonna bomb becuase no one would want to watch a movi about emoji.

Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:59 pm
by arcade999
timocomsmbx2345 wrote:But what if that movie DIDN'T bomb?
also,
glitch4 wrote:
Artemis008 wrote: It's one of those movies where you just know its gonna bomb. Like that Assassins Creed movie nobody remembers.
How do you know it's gonna bomb? Did your friends told you they will not see it?
I know it's gonna bomb becuase no one would want to watch a movi about emoji.
Except 12 year old fanboys kids from the ``new`` generation that think everything sucked before call of duty and that are buying fidget spinners.

I know, it's depressing, I am oly 15, and I already think that the past was better.

Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:22 pm
by timocomsmbx2345
arcade999 wrote:
timocomsmbx2345 wrote:But what if that movie DIDN'T bomb?
also,
glitch4 wrote: How do you know it's gonna bomb? Did your friends told you they will not see it?
I know it's gonna bomb becuase no one would want to watch a movi about emoji.
Except 12 year old fanboys kids from the ``new`` generation that think everything sucked before call of duty and that are buying fidget spinners.

I know, it's depressing, I am oly 15, and I already think that the past was better.
So do I. But it will be the end of the world if the Emoji Movie was successful.

Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:55 pm
by Artemis008
arcade999 wrote:
timocomsmbx2345 wrote:But what if that movie DIDN'T bomb?
also,
glitch4 wrote: How do you know it's gonna bomb? Did your friends told you they will not see it?
I know it's gonna bomb becuase no one would want to watch a movi about emoji.
Except 12 year old fanboys kids from the ``new`` generation that think everything sucked before call of duty and that are buying fidget spinners.

I know, it's depressing, I am oly 15, and I already think that the past was better.
You wouldn't be here on this forum or the internet at all, had you been in the "old days". Appreciate what you've got, you never know when it might be gone.

Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:58 pm
by kr4k1n
Artemis008 wrote:
arcade999 wrote:
timocomsmbx2345 wrote:But what if that movie DIDN'T bomb?
also,

I know it's gonna bomb becuase no one would want to watch a movi about emoji.
Except 12 year old fanboys kids from the ``new`` generation that think everything sucked before call of duty and that are buying fidget spinners.

I know, it's depressing, I am oly 15, and I already think that the past was better.
You wouldn't be here on this forum or the internet at all, had you been in the "old days". Appreciate what you've got, you never know when it might be gone.
It's never that bad to remember the olden days once in a while

Re: The Emoji Movie

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 2:43 am
by Snessy the duck
timocomsmbx2345 wrote:
arcade999 wrote:
timocomsmbx2345 wrote:But what if that movie DIDN'T bomb?
also,

I know it's gonna bomb becuase no one would want to watch a movi about emoji.
Except 12 year old fanboys kids from the ``new`` generation that think everything sucked before call of duty and that are buying fidget spinners.

I know, it's depressing, I am oly 15, and I already think that the past was better.
So do I. But it will be the end of the world if the Emoji Movie was successful.
I don't really think so. I mean, really bad movies have been successful in the past.