M12: Night... of the Mafia - TOWN VICTORY

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:36 am

Layla wrote:"PPX seems very quick to lynch people, he is really suspicious!" "Every inactive user is really suspicious!" "8bit seems like he's really sure at consort and thug, he's really suspicious!"

Nickname, your logic this game is quick to judge and when the town has only about two chances left, it's a very dangerous logic. Tell me now what your role is in PM before I vote for you.

I already openly told that I'm Witch. I also stopped voting for PPX after he was confirmed to be inncoent by Gohan. By calling the inactives suspicious I mostly meant that playing like this is bad for the town since with fewer people active the Mafia makes up a bigger share of the active players. And 8bit said he was sure or something along the lines even though it isn't really more likely that both died. More likely, yes, but not likely enough to act like 8bit did. Besides, the only ones of them I did lynch was 8bit and I also mostly didn't lynch them directly.

I'd still would like to hear if another FM might have information from Gohan worth posting.

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:15 am

Also, why should I have trusted you and told you my role? Just because you threatened to lynch me? I don't think you're in amy wax confirmed innocent like Gohan was.

RudeGuy · Postby **RudeGuy** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:05 am

Gohan wrote:
RudeGuy07 wrote:
Gohan wrote:But I'm just guessing on RudeGuy.
Why, exactly?
The more you keep questioning, the more suspicious you look. Especially when you are asking why I'm guessing.

You did a guess on me for no reason at all. How does asking the reason of a guess eith no reason is suspicious?

Nickname wrote:And 8bit said he was sure or something along the lines even though it isn't really more likely that both died. More likely, yes, but not likely enough to act like 8bit did. Besides, the only ones of them I did lynch was 8bit and I also mostly didn't lynch them directly.

He said "is it safe to assume that the Consort and the Thug are both dead?". It doesn't mean he was sure of it.

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:24 am

"It's safe to assume" normally means > 90% probability, and that's just not the case.

RudeGuy · Postby **RudeGuy** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:59 am

Assume > Assumption > He was making only an assumption. You thought that he was sure about those fact he stated in the assumption and lynched him because of this reason.

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:51 pm

RudeGuy07 wrote:Assume > Assumption > He was making only an assumption. You thought that he was sure about those fact he stated in the assumption and lynched him because of this reason.

He said it was safe to assume when it definitely wasn't. Safe to assume means > 90% likely which isn't even close to what it actually would be, considering the SK (or Vig, but I doubt he'd random kill N1 since that'd be unlikely since he could have hit a blue) killed random which would be lilely.

The SK definitely killed a Mafia, in this case Thug and Consort with 1:2 each.
The safety hit GF, Witch and another one of Thug and Consort with 1:3 each, meaning Thug and Consort dying had a likeylhood of 1:3 that both died. That is NOT safe to assume. If it were 9:10 or something I'd agree, but not for 1:3. That made it sound like he KNEW that Consort and Thug died.

RudeGuy · Postby **RudeGuy** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:30 pm

So, are you telling me that you lynched 8bit because of a wrong assumption? Okay.

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:36 pm

Nope, I lynched him because, even with a bit of logical thinking thrown in, it's not "safe to assume" Thug and Consort died.

zlaker · Postby **zlaker** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:43 pm

To be really honest I'm gonna vote for Nickname. He claimed that the Godfather could take an advantage of "coming out as the witch" thing. This does sound suspicous when he claimed to be the Witch :/

RudeGuy · Postby **RudeGuy** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:45 pm

Nickname wrote:Nope, I lynched him because, even with a bit of logical thinking thrown in, it's not "safe to assume" Thug and Consort died.

1. That's still lynching for a wrong assumption;
2. You actually lynched him for another reason:

Nickname wrote:But the one I'm most suspicious of is Danny since he is so certain that Thug and Consort are dead I can't see anything about the fact that "it's not safe to assume that Thug and Consort died". I'm really split between these two.

Nickname wrote:If you're really so certain about PPX, I'll go with Danny since he was so sure that the Thug and the Consort died. Neither here

zlaker · Postby **zlaker** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:48 pm

I'm also guessing you used Gohan's death to your advantage, Nickname.

zlaker · Postby **zlaker** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:59 pm

zlakergirl357 wrote:I'm also guessing you used Gohan's death to your advantage, Nickname.

Correction: I'm also guessing you and the SK killed Gohan so you could silence him. Why? Because he was near fininishg the puzzle and that he also claimed to be a Freemason. This gave you and the SK the advantage to kill him. That's the only logical reason he died.

zlaker · Postby **zlaker** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:04 pm

Also Psuedo; it would be nice if you posted who got killed/lynched in the main thread. It's kinda annoying searching through 20 pages of who died or who got lynched, in my opinion :/

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:13 pm

Maybe they jst lynched him because his role was confirmed and he knew a lot of things, or maybe they just wanted to make me look bad b doing so. That is no argument at all since both is equal possible.
Also RudeGy07 since Gohan said he is GF or Witch.

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:18 pm

Also, looking through Gohan's last posts, it looks more like he suspected RdeGuy07. I don't really know which "puzzle" you're talking about since he said he KNOWS about my color.

Postby **Julia Pseudo** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:18 pm

zlakergirl357 wrote:Also Psuedo; it would be nice if you posted who got killed/lynched in the main thread. It's kinda annoying searching through 20 pages of who died or who got lynched, in my opinion :/

OK, I'll copy the death messages into the main post later today. It'll prevent people from being confused about the game history, yeah, that'll be good.

As long as I'm posting here, the current lynch vote count is
Nickname: 1
RudeGuy07: 1

RudeGuy · Postby **RudeGuy** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:23 pm

Nickname wrote:RudeGy07

Nice try

Nickname wrote:since Gohan said he is GF or Witch.

There is no reason at all of why would I be a a mafia. And, just wondering, but what does that "GF or Witch"? You claimed to be the Witch.
Also, I feel you are Mafia, because you wanted 8bit died, blindly trust Gohan when he said I was a mafia and also that you said you were the Witch when you said also:

Nickname wrote:Oh and btw if the Witch still lives I wouldn't suggest her openly claiming since theoretically the Witch could've died and a Mafia guy could just claim to be Witch. I definitely wouldn't believe such a claim.

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:28 pm

I kinda had to claim since Gohan basically guessed my role with "Nickname is and RudeGy07 is GF/Witch". Also, Gohan is CONFIRMED FREEMASON, since he cardfliped purple. He has also been known for getting reliable information in past Mafia games.