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Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:22 pm
by RudeGuy
RoundPiplup wrote:No offense TNTtimelord, but none of those things that you just said was why Emral almost made go into the Lower Tiers.
TNT wasn't talking about Emral. He was talking about that for 3 pages people were bitching of Emral's score.
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:31 pm
by RoundPiplup
Christian07 wrote:RoundPiplup wrote:No offense TNTtimelord, but none of those things that you just said was why Emral almost made go into the Lower Tiers.
TNT wasn't talking about Emral. He was talking about that for 3 pages people were bitching of Emral's score.
Let me change that then...
The only reason why I was part of that page is because Emral deducted points just for using one of his graphics. If that wasn't there, then I would had just taken it and not say a lot about it.
Thank you Emral for pissing me off at the beginning of your review and at the end too. You rigged like half of the people's score, and it was so badly that I couldn't keep it in my head anymore.
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:42 pm
by DarkMatt
TNTtimelord wrote:Emral gives what he thinks is right, and so does every other judge. Besides the fact you don't understand why he is giving such low scores, why do you have such a problem with him?
I'll give you something to think about.
I'm not complaining because a level I made would've been a tier higher if it wasn't for some ornery asshole, it's that a large number of us have legit proof that he is a bad judge. And not because we don't agree with how he judges, but because he has very arbitrary and personal beliefs that screws people over in a discriminative fashion. A lot of people can blame their place right on the asshole who gave a really shit score just because of a couple problems he found, and most, if not everybody, can agree that the highs and lows of this judge are VERRRRY extreme to the point where you're doomed to not place well if you do not please this single person, whose whims and beliefs are the most biased around. It no longer becomes a contest to make a good level, but instead a contest to suck up to the judges. There is a difference.
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:50 pm
by Mudkip
It's your fault guys, you wanted Emral as a judge.
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:50 pm
by DarkMatt
Hey I wasn't around you can't blame this on me.
You can blame the application process, but not the dorks who voted.
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:55 pm
by RoundPiplup
Mudkip wrote:It's your fault guys, you wanted Emral as a judge.
I never got the chance to vote who to judge, because I came to particpate later after that. Well, at least I know who to not pick once I get to vote.
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:59 pm
by Valtteri
There was no judge election, I picked them personally. So blame me, I guess... *hides*
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:01 pm
by RoundPiplup
Valtteri wrote:There was no judge election, I picked them personally. So blame me, I guess... *hides*
I don't even want to say who... Because I'm still pissed off in little tears.
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:12 pm
by DarkMatt
Valtteri wrote:There was no judge election, I picked them personally. So blame me, I guess... *hides*
It does explain a lot, and I don't mean that in a bad way. Just that there are good reasons why you have ways to take the burden off you and onto your judges/the populace. I mean, there always was the idea in the back of my head that none of these judges were actually up to good standards and that's probably because no one ever cared about the actual process of who wins and who loses.
Oh well, I'll have to figure out how I'm going to handle the brain and the heart. At the extremes, I'll want to not give a prize to someone who got help from biased judges who said "YEA UHUH THIS IS A+ MATERIAL". I'll have to see what the rest of ya'll do by the time the full results are posted.
So WORK FOR THE FUTURE.
(Yeah I can't get mad at this. Partially because it's not Valt's fault and partially because I never recalled these contests having much consideration put into how it'll be ran. Not just by Valt but by everyone.)
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:29 pm
by andregemeo23
I'm disappointed!
I gained 5
Emral just because I "screwed the surprise at the first session" .. What to say...
If it were not so, I would be in a MUCH better place!
Best review very well that the judges will analyze the levels, that
because of 1, can harm at
all!
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:38 pm
by sezixor
I am also disappointed to see that you didn't make it as far as you usually do. But, I won't judge anyone on how that happened until I get a chance to play your level in TOB7.
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:46 pm
by andregemeo23
sezixor wrote:I am also disappointed to see that you didn't make it as far as you usually do. But, I won't judge anyone on how that happened until I get a chance to play your level in TOB7.
I would post my level, but I know you will not play until the launch ToB 8 = (
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:50 am
by deadfish
I started my level quite early, but started to do real progress a week before the deadline.
So, mooth. Interested in tier 4. Wondering how far I got. I'm confident. Mooth.
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:58 am
by Darkonius Mavakar
I started my level one day after i finished Clockwork Ruins.
and yes.
i'm currently working on my NEXT contest level.
...am i doing the wrong thing...?
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:02 am
by bossedit8
Darkonius Mavakar wrote:and yes.
i'm currently working on my NEXT contest level.
...am i doing the wrong thing...?
This isn't tecnically wrong though because you can start a New Level in no time. There is no limit of when are you going to make a new Level even if it is something relatively.
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:17 am
by Bryux
27th?
Oh well, I almost got to tier 4, I'm guessing this means the general quality must be pretty high.
And people should stop bashing Emral, picky judging is not a bad thing, it's just a style, and it's important to have all different judging styles in a contest, both generous and picky, and the in-between of course. You see, they play different roles, firstly, the generous judge gives points for good level design and other good points. Then the picky judge brings the score down by focusing on the bad points, and the normal judge balances the score out. This way of judging is healthy for a contest. And there being one generous judge and one picky judge is good, because there's an equal amount of each.
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:32 am
by ElTipsta
Darkonius Mavakar wrote:I started my level one day after i finished Clockwork Ruins.
and yes.
i'm currently working on my NEXT contest level.
...am i doing the wrong thing...?
Nope, it means you have more time to make this level great; I have a feeling your level will crack the top 10.
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:02 am
by Dragonmaster146
Emral's hardcore. Most of the guy's score are around 5. Even the higher ones had that issue.
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:06 am
by RoundPiplup
Dragonmaster146 wrote:Emral's hardcore. Most of the guy's score are around 5. Even the higher ones had that issue.
I don't even want to hear about this. :/
Re: Level Contest 8: Tier 3 Is Here!
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:13 am
by Raster
why won't you remove his reviews? What's ironic is that Emral even said he was generous.