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Mr Briney wrote:Is there any way to test a level created in SMBX2?

Press F5, or use LunaTester in the testing menu.

The0x539 wrote:The number of NPCs we can add is a bit over 32 thousand, and considering we haven't even added 200 yet, the limit's not a concern. By the time we reached that ultimate limit, the PGE Engine would probably be ready to switch to anyway. A few people on the team, mainly myself, are...a bit opposed to a player freeze effect, but it's still a possibility. What do those other Piranha Plant variants do?

I remember you and Enjl saying that. but I honestly would love Venus Ice Plants and Ice bros... (honestly, a second without harm to the player might be best as one of you said earlier). You also said (You as in someone on the dev team) that if it is in 1.4, then it will eventually be in 2.0. Is that not why the `Foo` is in the game already?

The0x539 wrote:

Mr Briney wrote:Is there any way to test a level created in SMBX2?

Press F5, or use LunaTester in the testing menu.

Using the LunaTester or pressing F5 doesn't work. SMBX2 crashes when I do it.

I'd like player freeze effects, partially for some variety. If the freezing doesn't hurt you right away, it's in a way actually weaker than a normal attack! If it hurts you right away, then it's more dangerous. If you don't stay frozen suspended in mid-air (some games do that) then getting frozen over a pit is something to avoid. Cold water that freezes you could be a thing that could be probably scripted easier once the freeze effect is already there.



Anyway, I have a question: Will any of the "new" characters (Rosalina, Klonoa, Bowser, Juni, etc.) have any changes in Beta 4 or any other planned down the line? I heard Bowser's "Super Mushroom" form glitch will be fixed. But I remember when Bowser had rotating Goomba barriers and stuff, so the characters have changed before.

Most characters will be getting some tweaks. Some like Snake will be getting complete overhauls like the one Bowser had. The main reason this is still beta is so we can change things like this (that would lose compatibility with levels already designed for these characters).

Mr Briney wrote:

The0x539 wrote:

Mr Briney wrote:Is there any way to test a level created in SMBX2?

Press F5, or use LunaTester in the testing menu.

Using the LunaTester or pressing F5 doesn't work. SMBX2 crashes when I do it.

What's the crash?

I have three questions:
1. Will the new NPCs get death effects, like with the 1.3. NPCs?
2. Could the extended graphics feature from 1.4.3 be added? It's pretty cool, and would benefit the community.
3. Who or what is Megan? I'm looking for a serious answer here.

Murphmario wrote:1. Will the new NPCs get death effects, like with the 1.3. NPCs?

That's the plan.

Murphmario wrote:2. Could the extended graphics feature from 1.4.3 be added? It's pretty cool, and would benefit the community.

Doing something along the lines of the important parts of that feature is something we want to do. For most overworld stuff, though, it'd be better to just add more tiles/sceneries/levels, same for BGOs and even potentially blocks. NPCs and functional blocks, though, absolutely on the radar.

Murphmario wrote:3. Who or what is Megan? I'm looking for a serious answer here.

• She's her.
• Another conversation NPC to use, like the Peach/Toad/Link NPCs.
• A joke arising from something along the lines of "megashroom, megaspikes, hmm....megan".
• Something to joke about SMBX-38A not having.

So Megan was made as a joke?

thehelmetguy1 wrote:So Megan was made as a joke?

Yes. It was, judging from the development channel on Discord.

The0x539 wrote:

Mr Briney wrote:

The0x539 wrote: Press F5, or use LunaTester in the testing menu.

Using the LunaTester or pressing F5 doesn't work. SMBX2 crashes when I do it.

What's the crash?

Sorry it's my laptop's fault.

I've also tried the Luna Tester and it's just not up to snuff.

Crashes too often, or doesn't start up at all.

But it's fine really; I'd rather just have PGE running and SMBX, that way I can edit levels and test them by just switching windows.

what kind of error message do you get upon crashing?

Also, after the initial startup the lunatester loads levels really quickly.

Hoeloe wrote:Most characters will be getting some tweaks. Some like Snake will be getting complete overhauls like the one Bowser had. The main reason this is still beta is so we can change things like this (that would lose compatibility with levels already designed for these characters).

Okay. Glad to hear Snake will be getting an overhaul. He's actually pretty fun to use in levels designed around him, like the demo level. But in normal levels he's rather...subpar. I was planning on making him one of the "main characters" of my current project, but the amount of stuff I'd have to change to accommodate him and his low jump height and giving him ways to avoid being spotted (especially by Birdos and Magikoopas, noooooo) would require making a game that's too easy for the other characters. My solution was to give every world an optional "Stealth Level" that only Snake could do. I loved the features in the demo level, like the security cameras spawning different NPCs, that I wanted to study the level's code to do something similar, but...depending on how much he'll change, maybe I'll hold off on my Snake levels for now and work on different parts of my game.

Spinda wrote:what kind of error message do you get upon crashing?

Also, after the initial startup the lunatester loads levels really quickly.

It's actually the PGE tester that doesn't load correctly, but since it's ALL in the SAME drop-down MENU...too easily confused as all the SAME BLOODY THING.

Link: "Excuuuuuuuse ME!"

Amyrakunejo wrote:

what kind of error message do you get upon crashing?

Also, after the initial startup the lunatester loads levels really quickly.

It's actually the PGE tester that doesn't load correctly, but since it's ALL in the SAME drop-down MENU...too easily confused as all the SAME BLOODY THING.

Link: "Excuuuuuuuse ME!"

This is Beta 4. Happy?

The0x539 wrote:

Amyrakunejo wrote:

what kind of error message do you get upon crashing?

Also, after the initial startup the lunatester loads levels really quickly.

It's actually the PGE tester that doesn't load correctly, but since it's ALL in the SAME drop-down MENU...too easily confused as all the SAME BLOODY THING.

Link: "Excuuuuuuuse ME!"

This is Beta 4. Happy?

Also remember you can just hit F5, rather than rooting through menus.

Hoeloe wrote:
Also remember you can just hit F5, rather than rooting through menus.

To be honest...

Working test method:

Run PGE

Run SMBX

Switch between windows, cross-save files.

Why?

Hardware I haven't the money to replace/upgrade. Happy!? Not even remotely but that's my problem and mine alone, or so I have learned.

what

Enjl wrote:what

The testing method that works for me...

0) Open the PGE and relevant SMBX 2.0 worlds folders

1) Run PGE
2) Load all relevant levels
3) Save each level
4) Copy each saved level from PGE folder to relevant SMBX 2.0 worlds folders
5) Run SMBX 2.0 after making sure the music in PGE is not running
6) Test for whatever
7) End game test in SMBX
8) Switch back to Editor
9) Make edits
Repeat steps 3 through 9
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