A wise man once said
Danny wrote:Here's some constructive criticism: What the hell.
Now its back, in HD, OVERPRICED AND WORSE THEN EVER BEFORE WITH ALL THE DLC CHARGES
NOW WITH A PATCH BECAUSE WE CAN PATCH IT INSTEAD OF MAKING A GAME THAT IS GLITCH AND BUG FREE AND HAS LITTLE TO NO PROBLEMS
This may, or may not be taken seriously
in other words no this is not serious unless you make it out to be serious
Reader "desgresstion" is advised. YES FUCKING DESGRESSTION
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Insert your generic name that people like and will always vote for here
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WHY IS THIS REAL?
Overly blantant screaming millennials
A D00D: OH GOD THE HORROR! ITS A RANDOM DUDE. Can visit two people, and must be two people. Visiting those two people stop their abilities for that night, but they can use it twice the next night. (Killing roles are an exception. The cant kill twice, but instead can inspect a player to learn their color or survive that night) Does mot work for DIO's time stopping ability either. The D00D can not visit the same people twice in a row. Those with two abilities can only use one ability twice. (I.e. can heal or inspect. Either inspects twice or heals twice)
12 year old Kid: Can use their fidget spinner to attack with roblox and minecraft along with a meme from fnaf and undertale while dressed as a furry holding guns in one hand saying "nothing personal kid" and drinking mountain dew mixed with doritos called dewreitos. It's so cancerous it will stop their role for the night. If visited gain there lynch votes do not count anymore and instead will count for themselves twice. If VISITED AGAIN they will suicide due to the amount of cancerous shit they having to deal with. Can visit two people. When visited by the dude can visit 4 people, but they have to be differnet people within said night. (EXAMPLE: can visit p1, p2, p3, p4, but not p1, p1, p2, p2,)
DIO: You were expecting no DIO memes but it was me DIO! Can stop time for the night, stopping all and any abilities from happening. In turn, skipping a whole phase. Since he FUCKING DIES AFTER PART 3 he can only use it once. Oops spoilers... Anyways he can alternatively kill a person a night with a road rolla da. Can only kill someone once.
The Moe Loli: Can not die at night, if targeted by a night action, they learn the color of said person. (Not everyone that visited them just one single person i.e. the first person who chose to visited you the loli. At most this single ability, can be used up to 3 times. )
LOVE IS SO BLUE GUYS FTW
Editing of the Bosses: Can protect someone during the night. During protections takes in all the abilities used on that person to be used on the Editing of Bosses. If killed, takes the attacker down to revealing the role of the attack in the process. Removes bombs from players when protecting them unless they have been targeted to be nightkilled.
Our boy Roy: Red headed Marth, but is also somehow our boy, so Roy > Marth? Can inspect someone every night. When they reach level 20 (last person on team) Can promote to gain a new ability alongside said ability. Must have lynched 2 enemy members of different teams. Every night no matter what can see you visits who and what happened, but some oh it may be blured and such so names will be mixed up.
Killer Queen: DYNAMITE AND THE LAZER BEAMS! Can plant a bomb on someone every other night. This bomb does not kill someone. Can detonate the bombs all at once killing everyone who had a bomb planted on them. If the bombed person was killed while you were planting a bomb on them, you, the person attacked, and the attack all die. Also kills the people that visited them (other non-killing roles.) when doing multiple explosions. (i.e. p1 plants bomb on p2, p3 kills p2. bomb blows up, p1, p2, and p3 die.) If doc protected this person the doc takes the bomb all alone with the attacker and you live, along with the person the doc protected. When doing the multi explosion bomb ability they can no longer plant bombs and their role is revealed. If killed before doing the multiple explsions, the bombs stay on the people but if they are nightkilled it still goes off.
TheEEM of the O: Is edgy, can suicide to kill to others(up to 2 of choosing). can only be done at night after 2 nights of the game starting. (in game nights i.e. night 3. Night 2 if someone on if a team mate died)
People in who went to the court of the crimson king
Pro Fighting Game Player: Can protect self at night for about 3 times. There will be a message that someone protected themselves playing against scrubs
Pimp Browser: Is a pimp, but is also a web browser, stole princess peach from Mario. (YES WEB BROWSER, SPOOPSY) Can steal someone for the night, disabling their role for said night. In turn the person stole will be protected from all night time activites. Can pm the host to talk to said stolen person.
Dio: You were expecting DIO but it was me Dio! Can be a holy diver and take someone down during the night while protecting self. Can be done every other night. When protecting, nightkills are ineffective on both players and other non killing roles only work on Dio. (i.e. Dio and the person they protect can not be nightkilled, but Dio is effected by other roles, but the person he protects is unaffected) If Dio dove the last night, they can only post 5 word every 3 posts.
Brando: This is a high schooler, he stole your memes. He can control someone and make them use their ability during the night on someone else. They will know they have been controlled. Is in contact with Dio
WE GOT TO STOP BULLYING
Cowboy Bebop: Can avoid death once. ONLY ONCE, THEN YOU MIGHT DIE (lynches dont count and you will die)
If the last one alive on their team, this role can kill every other night and kill one of the who voted to lynch him, even if they take it back and even if he dies from said lynch. In turn his color is given to thoses who also visited that person who they tried to kill. (i.e. p1 kills p2. p3 visits p1 or p2, p3 learns p1's color.)
Susano'o: Can play his edgy theme making the lynch targets voted on the them not count. (Ex. susan uses ability on p1. p2 has 3 votes, p1 has 5, p2 is lynched instead.) More or less protects the player from a lynch. can only be done once.
Lay's Chips: You are Air you can't be touched or say die from night kills. If inspected or protected you will be eaten and die, but since it takes a family pack to feed one person, they will die from hunger the next night. (Eaten night 1, person dies night 2)
Stomping Fetish Snek Man: Can survive a night or two, depending on who he killed. if he killed his own teammate, he lives throught another night. (Can not get another life to live if they "accidentally" kill another ally) Can kill someone every other night just to let you know. (messages will be someone was stomped to death just to also let ya know, and may come with gif or video. "MAY" OK. SO I MIGHT NOT DO IT AT ALL)
Everything the light touches is Anime
Anime person man.: They can copy a role of someone who quoted them or was the post below them, in turn allowing them to use their role ability. Must be used the following night or the ability to use said role is lost. Can not learn what the role does, but you know you can use it.
The Nientendo Switch'o'2: can take a role from the dead and join that team while remaining on this team. (In turn two teams could win. As long as Nientendo Switch'o'2 is the only remaining player on that team or this team.) In turn if they dont choose they live through one night. ONLY ONCE. People know that you changed teams but not who you are. Can always pm/dm the host to make a message in public during the start of the day or night
A.I. Yandere youtuber: can check three people at night to see if they they are Nientendo Switch'o'2. If they are then they kill those who visit Nientendo Switch'o'2. Does not work if they are from the same team. If someone kills Nientend'o' Switcher2 then this role gains the ability to kill every night. Kills the person who night killed Nientendo Switch'o'2. If apart of the lynch that killed Nientend'o' Switcher2 can kill someone from that lynch along with self, or die alone revealing two people who voted for Nientendo Switch'o'2 roles.
The Red eyes of the Digits: Can steals a players role and can use it twice once with in the game (What I mean is that they can only used the role's ability that they stole twice. They can use it every other night though if it is a normal role. Nightkilling roles can be used twice and DIO's time stopping cant be used twice. This role is also not effect by the D00D's ability to use roles twice. This includes roles they stole and orginally had.) May alternatively, Learn a player's role at night. if they do not want to steal a role that night. When Stealing a role they do not change teams nor do they join they team they stole a role from. Can not steal ally roles, so inadvertently, they learn their allies and their allies learn who they are if they had nearly had their role stolen. Since the person who had their role stolen has no role anymore, they can inspect players instead every night or be a Triplevoter (i.e. p1 steals role of p2, p2 has no role anymore, p2 can choose to be an color inspector or have lynch votes count for 3. Can not have both otherwise thats fuckin broken man)
Pseudo wrote:Oh my.
OK, so going to make up some shorthand here:
Red team = Team Millennials
Blue team = Team Blue
Yellow team = Team People
Green team = Team Bullying
Purple team = Team Anime
alright? ok, here we go...
Is the drunk guy intentionally a different color different from the rest of Team Anime? It's a bit redder as is in case you didn't notice.
What "flames" are able to unfreeze those frozen by Elsa? Please clarify.
Carmandar is very overpowered and would discourage activity by existing. I would suggest changing what this role does entirely, I don't think it'd work out well.
A.I. Yandere Youtuber doesn't really work with Mafia mechanics... It's very hard to actually know that someone is who they say they are. I would give the role an inspection ability that only works to check if another player is the Nientendo Switch'o'2 or not.
Overall,
Team Millennials seems too powerful. President Hair Clip-on, DIO, and The Moe Loli together are very very strong. I would suggest nerfing some of these a bit or switching them out with underpowered teams (see below)
Team People and Team Anime seem underpowered on the other hand, since they don't have consistent killing roles or otherwise powerful roles like the other teams (and Team Anime is just really gimmicky)
Stylistically, I approve. But I do not approve the game, yet. I do think this could be acceptable with changes, though.
Edit: Approved, but with the same warnings as Danny. I think this game would be very difficult to run as well as understand given its complexity and writing style, but it's fairly balanced theoretically.
Syndrilevosse wrote:Even with the changes, there's just this inconsistency that isn't entirely the game's fault, but the fault of the writing style that makes it hard to follow rules. When you are working on a game like this, at least give it an air of seriousness and consistency despite it being a joke game, this will help people (especially the gamemasters) better understand the rules and the mechanics of the game.
I will approve this game for now, but the inconsistencies and writing style really throw me for a spin, and I can't put it at the fault of the roles. It just makes it really hard to determine whether or not something is unbalanced.
M38 reviews i guess: show Pseudo wrote:Team Millenials is too powerful with two of its members able to shut down ability usages during the night.
A D00D also doesn't totally make sense when it targets some people, in terms of letting the player use their power twice the next night - for example, if he targets DIO, can DIO kill and stop time on the same night? Too many unclear contingencies.
Reviving dead players as Editing of the Bosses does has balance/meta issues, as described in other reviews in this thread (basically, confusion over what type of communication is allowed).
Killer Queen's ability to turn back time is just straight up too strong for a game like this.
Does TheEEM of the O gain their ability on Night 2 or Night 3? It's not totally clear from the wording.
Faking one's death as the Dio role does is not very good (as in not useful) and brings up balance issues similar to reviving dead players.
Gonna throw you a bone here, Susan'o's ability is cool and unique and not something I've seen done before.
TIFFANY should only be able to bring her own team together, since anything else is basically gamethrowing.
Lynch immunity as Stomping Fish Terumi has is a pretty straight-up broken mechanic, since it just reveals the player's role as the one lynch-immune role.
Does Anime Person Man's killing ability only work once? I can't tell from the wording.
In any case forcing everyone to mention anime in every post at the risk of dying is pretty silly, having one role have to do it is cool but allowing him to kill anyone else would use be annoying as hell.
Team Anime is way too weak, with two roles able to die/leave the team using their abilities and one other existing largely to neutralize the team-changing role.
In any case, even with these changes I would recommend submitting a different game as this game is kind of fundamentally broken with how complex and confusing the different roles are, as Danny and I described in the last host signups.
Danny wrote:I have to give you some form of medal for submitting this game again, and I'm not even going to use the red text.
This game is, as Pseudo said, fundamentally broken. As explained in the last judging of this game (before it was changed, that is), I mentioned something here:
Syndrilevosse wrote:Even with the changes, there's just this inconsistency that isn't entirely the game's fault, but the fault of the writing style that makes it hard to follow rules. When you are working on a game like this, at least give it an air of seriousness and consistency despite it being a joke game, this will help people (especially the gamemasters) better understand the rules and the mechanics of the game.
I will approve this game for now, but the inconsistencies and writing style really throw me for a spin, and I can't put it at the fault of the roles. It just makes it really hard to determine whether or not something is unbalanced.
With how insane this game is, we just can't allow it to go through. I don't think this community is particularly ready for faction games, as the last few we've had were pretty insane and kind of a shitshow. Faction-style games don't really encompass the general playstyle and idea of Mafia itself, so it sits in a gray area and nobody really wants to play them all that much. Honestly, since this would potentially be your first time hosting a game, to make it easier on yourself and everyone else, I would suggest you submit a different, more orthodox game following a semblance of traditional Mafia setup, and not Faction-based.