M15: Spacebase 115 *INNOCENT VICTORY*

[underFlo]

I was thinking that Nien gave his role via DOTA, but:

1. qig proved that Nien wasn't playing DOTA yesterday.
2. I didn't really understand Igno's role last game all that well.

Pretty sure those two could change someone's viewpoint if they were to think the same way I did.

And Ragont nimja'd me. You already voted for me earlier.

I never voted for you. And the 2nd point has nothing to do with the case at hand, and with a bit of thinking the 1st one does neither.

[Zeldamaster12]

I never said you voted fot me, I said Ragont did.

About the first point, Nien couldn't have told his role to the DOTA crew because he wasn't on yesterday.

And the second point, I thought Nien might have told his role to Igno, a member of the DOTA crew, last game, so I was thinking he might have done the same this game.

[underFlo]

I never said you voted fot me, I said Ragont did.

About the first point, Nien couldn't have told his role to the DOTA crew because he wasn't on yesterday.

And the second point, I thought Nien might have told his role to Igno, a member of the DOTA crew, last game, so I was thinking he might have done the same this game.

He could've told them w/o being on or they killed him bc of personal reasons (not an accusation btw, someone might as well just have killed him randomly).

Did it turn out well for him? No. Then why would he repeat the same mistake?

Your argument has so many holes, you keep getting more suspicious.

[Zeldamaster12]

I'm not even arguing my past argument involving Igno anymore because both of my arguments were already proven wrong. I don't see why you're trying to argue about it still even when I've already stated that I was wron. Why do you think the argument has holes in it? Because that was before I had a better understanding of all this.

[TLtimelord]

Well, I understand it now. =P

Accusing the DOTA crew was probably stupid of me, because it didn't have much logic behind it. My apologies, didn't think that one through.

Imo that's a pretty suspicipus move, you could've just thought that far fromt he beginning and the new information you got before that post couldn't have changed your views.

I loathe your mafia logic. You find people suspicious for EVERYTHING.

But anyways, I've been gone all day, can someone fill me in?

[Marina]

Well, tbh I see where his point was, ZM seemingly accused the DOTA people out of nowhere, which seemed like he just wanted to get the blame on someone else, but seeing as that was a misunderstanding, I don't see further point to accuse him.

[TLtimelord]

Gosh I have had it with this mentality of everyone that accusing another with or without substantial evidence makes someone suspicious. Part of being a townsperson role is trying to find a person to lynch, and what other way can a townsperson choose other than call someone else out?

Day 1 lynches are, in my opinion, practically based on logic, not evidence. ZM called a "dota crew" guy out because you guys have closer ties with Nien. In all honesty, it made perfect sense for ZM to call one of you out first, but of course the logic became null when you guys countered the argument.

Anyways, let's try for a different lead unless we can prove ZM is guilty.

[underFlo]

ZM accuses someone with bad reasoning: "its okei we have to accuse someone based on logic"

I accusehim based off his bad logic: "Can you stop accusing someone for everything"

Hypocrite much?

Also, emphasis on how he tries to get attention away from ZM.

And even if he rowed back from his reasoning, it still was something you could debunk with 3 secs of reasoning. My accusation is in no way less credible then ZM's.

[TLtimelord]

I just found it unnecessary to start bashing ZM for accusing a dota crew user... And then went on a tangent that made no sense.

[Julia Pseudo]

I don't really have any leads personally. Everyone has just been claiming townie so far.

Zeldamaster is the only person who seems a bit suspicious, but I won't vote for him just yet.

Choco, accusing Zeldamaster so quickly is a bit suspicious on its own. I understand that you've played with him in the past, but still...

I won't cast a vote yet though.

[Choco]

I wasn't accusing him, just suggesting that maybe you guys were right. If I was accusing, I would have voted for him.

[MacheTheFerret]

I knew I shouldn't have opened my big mouth about the Dota theory. Now everyone's blaming each other. The way I see it, the following three people have become suspicious, in the order of most suspicious to least;
1. ZeldaMaster
2. Nickname
3. TNTTimelord

That's just what I've gotten from this. We need to lynch someone sometime, and my vote will be to ZeldaMaster, until we have other evidence.

[Sevennights]

Well i guess that nien is dead due to a random kill and zeldamaster12 might just want to get mafia so quickly to accuse someone hopeing they were mafia. But one of them might be mafia but those chances are slim. Really it is suspicions to call out someone but you are not suspicious to me yet, just really paranoid from losing a blue. Anyways everyone is really just a townie so every just vote for nothing for now and think of what to do. I suspect no one, just thinking everything over as of now.

[TLtimelord]

Woah uhm how did the Mafia find a blue so fast?? Like, of course it could've been coincidence, but how high is the likeliness of that happening??

I suppose they were just lucky?

If they weren't that means Nien roleclaimed to someone he didn't know the credibility of (since it was N1) and thus it has to have been someone he knew privately. My guesses would be Ragont or maybe qig? Dunno if Nien has any friends

Talk to me about being a hypocrite, Nickname.

[Zeldamaster12]

Hmm, so Nickname also brought up the DOTA crew theory before me, as well as PPX. So how am I suspicious?

Nickname

[MacheTheFerret]

The following message needed to be put in a spoiler for space reasons (bad pun):

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hy·poc·ri·sy
həˈpäkrəsē/
noun
noun: hypocrisy; plural noun: hypocrisies
the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.

Thank Google for telling us what the true definition of hypocrisy is (trust me, this is from the internet, so it's 100% not true).
Nickname and TNT, you are both not only using this term wrong, but also arguing pointlessly. Just make up your ing mind on who to ing lynch and play some ing Mafia, for s sake!

[Zeldamaster12]

You must not know what a hypocrite is, because he used the term in the correct sense.

[MacheTheFerret]

You must not know what a hypocrite is, because he used the term in the correct sense.

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hyp·o·crite
ˈhipəˌkrit/
noun
noun: hypocrite; plural noun: hypocrites

a person who indulges in hypocrisy.

Re:

hy·poc·ri·sy
həˈpäkrəsē/
noun
noun: hypocrisy; plural noun: hypocrisies
the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.

But anyways, grammar is not the focus of this issue. I'm sticking with ZeldaMaster as my vote.

[Zeldamaster12]

You don't have to vote again, you know.

[MacheTheFerret]

You don't have to vote again, you know.

Yea, and?