Super Mario and the Tower of Biased 8

YouTube · Postby **bossedit8** » Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:31 am

You do know that joke Levels are permamently forbidden in this Forum as you can see here in the Casual Levels Forum: http://www.smbxgame.com/forums/v ... 914#p81839

Spoiler: show

Also, if some Levels are basically incredibly difficult (Kaizo difficulty), it should be not in a regular SMBX Episode since there are a lot of Members who is incapeable to Play a super unnecessarily difficult Level like that. Regular difficulty is fine but super difficulty (kaizo) that is just plain Memory and be perfect all the time needs to be seriously taking out of the regular SMBX Episode.

By the way, since I beat the game, I do like the SMBX Episode and it's Music choicements inside the Tower. Very good Job!

Arale · Postby **Arale** » Wed Feb 11, 2015 5:08 am

Hahaha, are you kidding me? A rule against them, really? Why do you guys hate humor so much

However, more important is the fact that you didn't actually read anything because all of this has already been addressed. The fact that kaizo are there (with the solution being "make the low tiers optional") and the fact that you guys hate joke levels (not all the levels in the lower tiers were joke levels, and you can't 100 percent confirm several of those levels to be jokes, AND there were still joke levels in the lower tiers of the Tower anyway!!!!)

So everything you've said contributes nothing, being blunt here. We've just... already been through all of that.

Important, though - you can't confirm levels as jokes. Do you have proof that, say, my level was a joke level? Memo? How do you know that single line messages aren't just my form of level design? What if I told you that it was an abstract level? A metaphor for a level? You can't quantify jokes objectively.

YouTube · Postby **bossedit8** » Wed Feb 11, 2015 5:54 am

Arale wrote:Hahaha, are you kidding me? A rule against them, really? Why do you guys hate humor so much.

Because for a regular Mario Level would make no sense in any way. We need actual Contents, not Contents that are just there to bore the Player out of existence just for having a Level that makes no sense to the pray.

Arale wrote:...is the fact that you didn't actually read anything because all of this has already been addressed.

I did read everything. I just make it clear that a Kaizo Level is infact a horrible way to get over a desicion to belong in a regular Episode unless there is an exception to make the entire Game/Episode like that (See: The Kaizo Trials - Made by @Star). As for Joke Levels, there is a rule specified for that as I linked before on my previous post and that's final!

Arale wrote:The fact that kaizo are there (with the solution being "make the low tiers optional") and the fact that you guys hate joke levels (not all the levels in the lower tiers were joke levels, and you can't 100 percent confirm several of those levels to be jokes, AND there were still joke levels in the lower tiers of the Tower anyway!!!!)

In General, These Levels aren't on the best Quality to see and Play through them... infact, it's the opposite which is obvious anyway.

Arale wrote:So everything you've said contributes nothing, being blunt here. We've just... already been through all of that.

That doesn't mean it's still not relative to the whole dicsussion of 2 Tiers being off the road like that. Normally it is obvious as of why they are not in the main SMBX Episode.

Arale wrote:Important, though - you can't confirm levels as jokes. Do you have proof that, say, my level was a joke level? Memo? How do you know that single line messages aren't just my form of level design? What if I told you that it was an abstract level? A metaphor for a level? You can't quantify jokes objectively.

I saw your Level and your only purpose is to add or more specific allow LunaDLL and that's it. Well, for Starters, sure, that is your reason as of why you made that Level but even then it's low tiered anyway due to how others judged your level. If that is not where you want it to be at the end though, make a Level that is Quality based of what others People have fun by playing a Mario(/Zelda, etc.) Level.

as303298 · Postby **as303298** » Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:08 am

Since everyone on the planet totally cares; I finally crawled form under the rock I was living under. Have some moving pictures:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHG6UJEyihk

Link and Embedded included.

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:48 am

Arale wrote:Hahaha, are you kidding me? A rule against them, really? Why do you guys hate humor so much

http://www.smbxgame.com/forums/v ... =81&t=7295

Yes we sure hate fun. I don't think you get what we mean by joke levels. Levels can be funny without being a complete clusterfuck.

Arale · Postby **Arale** » Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:18 pm

Well I think you just need to consider level design more besides "joke" or "not joke". You can make a level with laughably bad elements that is still fun to play - for example, make the gameplay good but the presentation bad (but not eyesearing), or something like that. I had actually planned to submit more "allow lunadll" levels to future contests, except give more and more "legitimate" gameplay until they're just levels with a theme that you guys get mad at, and see where it ranks. Would it be penalized harshly for being a "joke level" and attacking the contest, with people not noticing how the gameplay has changed? I dunno! Guess I'll never find out. But people seemed to get really mad at Memo in their reviews, so I guess I accomplished something from fricking around in the editor for about a minute.

This is all irrelevant, though, because it doesn't address why the bottom tiers were removed. Why not remove all the tiers but the top? That way your level turnout will look really good!

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:22 am

Arale wrote:Well I think you just need to consider level design more besides "joke" or "not joke". You can make a level with laughably bad elements that is still fun to play - for example, make the gameplay good but the presentation bad (but not eyesearing), or something like that. I had actually planned to submit more "allow lunadll" levels to future contests, except give more and more "legitimate" gameplay until they're just levels with a theme that you guys get mad at, and see where it ranks. Would it be penalized harshly for being a "joke level" and attacking the contest, with people not noticing how the gameplay has changed? I dunno! Guess I'll never find out. But people seemed to get really mad at Memo in their reviews, so I guess I accomplished something from fricking around in the editor for about a minute.

This is all irrelevant, though, because it doesn't address why the bottom tiers were removed. Why not remove all the tiers but the top? That way your level turnout will look really good!

Levels with serious gameplay are always fine here anyways, but if your GFX suck, you might get lower scores from the judges.

Arale · Postby **Arale** » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:23 pm

That's probably the least important to be addressed thing that I said.

as303298 · Postby **as303298** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:09 pm

Oh man, here you go guys: a bunch of pictures moving around!
Tower of Biased 8 Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6ZAfWKBp4w

Not sure if its just me doing this Post-Commentary style...but this Tower seems to be a lot more fun to play

YouTube · Postby **bossedit8** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:20 am

as303298 wrote:Not sure if its just me doing this Post-Commentary style...but this Tower seems to be a lot more fun to play

That is nice to hear. Sadly I didn't submit my Level in this Contest due to time restrictions. Oh well. I hope you are going well with this Tower.

as303298 · Postby **as303298** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:31 pm

Breaking News: Local civilian continues to yell at a large collection of moving dots!
Tower of Biased 8, Parts 3 & 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dXAUTqFmuw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BG8Ba_8ACU

Might just be me...but Ludvig Von Dick seems to be the go-to boss enemy this contest...

MacheTheFerret · Postby **MacheTheFerret** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:56 pm

as303298 wrote:Breaking News: Local civilian continues to yell at a large collection of moving dots!
Tower of Biased 8, Parts 3 & 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dXAUTqFmuw
Spoiler: show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BG8Ba_8ACU
Spoiler: show
Might just be me...but Ludvig Von Dick seems to be the go-to boss enemy this contest...

Just want to let you know that there aren't actually 3 stars in my level, if you were wondering. One of the stars isn't supposed to be marked, there's only two, and you haven't found the secret star (and you probably wouldn't want to anyway).

as303298 · Postby **as303298** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:57 pm

Breaking News: I have none. But I got a video, its almost better?
Tower of Biased 8 Part 5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkeaz7uU4Fg

MacheTheFerret · Postby **MacheTheFerret** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:13 pm

as303298 wrote:Breaking News: I have none. But I got a video, its almost better?
Tower of Biased 8 Part 5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkeaz7uU4Fg

The volume of your voice was too low, but a good video nonetheless.

as303298 · Postby **as303298** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:59 am

Apparently 30% was FAR too low...my bad. I'll try about 60% next time.

Postby **Witchking666** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:22 pm

I thought the idea of an autumn festival was genius
And i liked the "tent" gfx

as303298 · Postby **as303298** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:30 pm

Prepare your eyes, for I got AMAZING content you can't find anywhere else...right here...nowhere else.
Tower of Biased 8 Part 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfJil2xRn1k

Anyone remember when Ghost Houses were fun to play?

JupiHornet · Postby **JupiHornet** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:31 pm

as303298 wrote: Anyone remember when Ghost Houses were fun to play?

That's like asking us if we remember when Sonic '06 was good

MECHDRAGON777 · Postby **MECHDRAGON777** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:27 am

as303298 wrote:Prepare your eyes, for I got AMAZING content you can't find anywhere else...right here...nowhere else.
Tower of Biased 8 Part 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfJil2xRn1k
Spoiler: show
Anyone remember when Ghost Houses were fun to play?

Thank you for the complement in the begining! You really did get the secret star in my level, but you did not get e normal star... The normal star is goten by duck walk jumping up the cliff in the right...

My signiture reveals all three moon coins or how to get them any way!