M40: The Last Mafia - Mafia Wins

[Zeldamaster12]

I have already publically stated that it was dumb on the Sheriff's part to claim to me. Let's put it this way. Let's say I actually am lying about the whole thing. What would I gain here? If I was lying, then wouldn't the real Sheriff come out and simply inspect me? Yeah, there's a chance Waddle Derp was the Sheriff, but if that's the case, then the Deputy would take on the role of Sheriff and I would still likely be inspected if he thinks I'm lying. There are far too many risks that I would be taking if I were a Mafioso and I happened to be lying about the whole thing.

[Doesntpostverymuch]

there is the possibilty that we lynched the deputy as the deputy shows up green, if that's the case then i feel bad for voting for electric

[PersonNamedUser]

MosaicMario: Mosaic's suspicion list was basically just a wall of yellow. According to Mosaic everyone but theHelmetGuy, Noodle, Zeldamaster and I was suspicious in a way. I also found it pretty odd how he had inactives listed as "a bit suspicious". Inactivity has never made anyone look suspicious. Also, if there is one person I don't consider innocent at the moment it's Zeldamaster12. So I find it pretty odd for mosaic to consider him completely free of suspicion. I am not highly suspicious of MosaicMario though. Even though the suspicion list was a bit weird he did mention how it was his first one, so that sort of makes sense.

Sorry, i'm just not completely used to the idea of a suspicion list yet which is why it's probably a wall of yellow.

[glitch4]

Glitch4: I Find a bit odd how he’s absoulety sure that Noodle is green, but it’s just a gut feeling

Where was that one coming from? Also, Noodle is not completely unsuspicious as well.

I was just thinking that Noodle's green because of first time here. I'm still not definitely sure about that.

[PersonNamedUser]

Anyway I've got more to say on the suspicion list.

Thehelmetguy1: I’m pretty much in the clear with him since he tried to get a blue alliance started which is the last thing the mafia want to happen.

Witchking666: Similar reason to the helmetguy1, tried to formulate a plan to get a blue alliance started, so I find him pretty trustworthy.

That's a poor reason to have a townread on someone, the mafiosi do help as much as other townies on alliance plans, since if there's a chance for an alliance, the town will usually grab it anyway, and by appearing helpful, a mafioso also sometimes hopes to infiltrate the alliance.

The thing is though, people may often take precautions to make sure no scums get into the alliance so i feel that it would be a very risky action to make in
that scenario, because blue alliances, if undisturbed, grind the mafia into paste, so why would they want to help the town to start one? Maybe to be cleared of suspicion?
But it's still not too smart of a move in my eyes.

In fact thg1 is quite my suspect. First putting the vote on Noodle, then extending the bandwagon on KoE further, 20 minutes after the first votes were already thrown, and lots of silly joking.

Sorry, i hadn't even realized the first two things. Also the last thing, really now?

Megar: Some one claimed sheriff and suggested that you flipped red, which I find a bit suspicious, but of course they could just be lying. I also find it a bit odd how you jumped on the bandwagon without even questioning why we were lynching Koe, but then again, most of the votes, even mine were bandwagon so it’s not that suspicious.

You can say the latter about various other people too. The votes were literally in the same minute, Mega was just the first one to get their post in within seconds.

I had forgotten about that actually, sorry

Glitch4: I Find a bit odd how he’s absoulety sure that Noodle is green, but it’s just a gut feeling

Where was that one coming from? Also, Noodle is not completely unsuspicious as well.

He said something during day 1 about how he insists that noodle is green because it's his first mafia game and seemed to really be pressing for it to be true, but maybe it's just me.

[quote="Cedur"

Spinda: Tried to make the lynch into a lose-lose-lose situation no matter what we did, which I don’t exactly see why, something’s just off about it.

Zeldamaster12: I don’t really see anything suspicious about you at the moment.

We're not clear on anything yet. KoE flipped green but that only eliminated a few possibilities. The claimer's identity is nowhere confirmed.[/quote]

I know that, it's just that i was trying to get some kind of idea on things.

Glitch4: I Find a bit odd how he’s absoulety sure that Noodle is green, but it’s just a gut feeling

Where was that one coming from? Also, Noodle is not completely unsuspicious as well.

I was just thinking that Noodle's green because of first time here. I'm still not definitely sure about that.

Okay, i see

[PersonNamedUser]

also quote fail

[Witchking666]

I have already publically stated that it was dumb on the Sheriff's part to claim to me. Let's put it this way. Let's say I actually am lying about the whole thing. What would I gain here? If I was lying, then wouldn't the real Sheriff come out and simply inspect me? Yeah, there's a chance Waddle Derp was the Sheriff, but if that's the case, then the Deputy would take on the role of Sheriff and I would still likely be inspected if he thinks I'm lying. There are far too many risks that I would be taking if I were a Mafioso and I happened to be lying about the whole thing.

Yeah, that makes sense. I suspect you a lot less now.

[TLtimelord]

M80 I'm around just not when you are! >:C I've been traveling too so I actually have an excuse for not watching the game this closely.

[Cedur]

Inactivity has never made anyone look suspicious

It's common to list inactives within an "unsure" tier.

Also, the fact that ZM received a Sheriff claim is unquestioned, but the truthfulness of this claim isn't. If it's truthful, then it really has to come from someone awkward or super inconventional, and there's only few people I think could do that.

[Thehelmetguy1]

Let me add this. I did a few questionable acts indeed when voting Noodle, and you can interrogate me if you think it is necessary. Now, Cedur, I would like to know what acting in a silly way has to do with being suspicious or not.

[Cedur]

It just adds to the suspicion, because being a mafioso may sometimes give you an extra kick to fool around.

At the very least your votes weren't smart, and if I was the Sheriff I would inspect you.

[Thehelmetguy1]

Go ahead if you wish to inspect me, Sheriff/Deputy.
Also you should know that I usually fool around(But to be fair I went a bit too overboard yesterday)
In any case, as I said, if you judge it necessary, you are free to inspect me.

[PersonNamedUser]

It just adds to the suspicion, because being a mafioso may sometimes give you an extra kick to fool around.

Really now? I feel that's meta evidence, I was Serial killer in M38 and I wasn't acting silly

[TLtimelord]

Like yeah I voted KoE instead even though I didn't think any lynch was really a good idea. I don't like the idea we had to lynch D1 as it just asks for the wrong lynch target to go off of.

I also voted him because idiotic activity expressed by Noodle is better than no activity.

...which is why I'm going to be more active as I'm back home from traveling.

[Danny]

I want to throw out a friendly reminder before the next day starts that just because someone helps lynch off a red does not mean they should be confirmed innocent, especially if they were being suspected before.

[Witchking666]

It just adds to the suspicion, because being a mafioso may sometimes give you an extra kick to fool around.

Really now? I feel that's meta evidence, I was Serial killer in M38 and I wasn't acting silly

I find it pretty weak to start throwing meta-evidence into Cedur's face again. The reason why Supershroom got banned back then was because of the attitude he had, not because of the meta-evidence. Also, I don't think that is meta evidence. Honestly, if we start banning any comparison to earlier we might aswell stop playing altogether. I do think it is incredible weak evidence though, Cedur. You might wish to reconsider it.

[Cedur]

I have once read a (german) guide where it was said that mafiosos tend to provoke and clown around more than townspeople usually do. That's why, I wouldn't have brought it up otherwise.

Anyway imo the focus is
-> SSX came up first to lynch someone inactive, and behaves strangely according to witchking. Various people followed quickly.
-> thg1 pushed to get Noodle lynched before the KoE thing came up. Then thg1 also hopped on the KoE bandwagon, but then again changed his vote to SSX. Just because he says "sorry, that was stupid", I don't automatically assume him to be town.
-> an alleged undercover sheriff claimer accuses Mega to be red.

[Cedur]

Also since thg1 actually did that voteshift, I find it most likely that either one of them is mafia, but not both.

[MECHDRAGON777]

Also since thg1 actually did that voteshift, I find it most likely that either one of them is mafia, but not both.

I would think that is a pretty safe bet then.

[MECHDRAGON777]

I have once read a (german) guide where it was said that mafiosos tend to provoke and clown around more than townspeople usually do. That's why, I wouldn't have brought it up otherwise.

Anyway imo the focus is
-> SSX came up first to lynch someone inactive, and behaves strangely according to witchking. Various people followed quickly.
-> thg1 pushed to get Noodle lynched before the KoE thing came up. Then thg1 also hopped on the KoE bandwagon, but then again changed his vote to SSX. Just because he says "sorry, that was stupid", I don't automatically assume him to be town.
-> an alleged undercover sheriff claimer accuses Mega to be red.

I think instead of "Silly" you should have said "Act differently than usual, or unusual for that person."