M40: The Last Mafia - Mafia Wins

[MECHDRAGON777]

This is my very first time making a suspicion list but here's what i think at the moment:

Green – Not Suspicious
Yellow – A Bit Suspicious
Red – Suspicious

ShadowStarX: I suspect him slighty as he lead a bandwagon againist KoE without much reason

MosaicMario: Hey look I’m rainbow

Thehelmetguy1: I’m pretty much in the clear with him since he tried to get a blue alliance started which is the last thing the mafia want to happen

Sanct: Talk more

Glitch4: I Find a bit odd how he’s absoulety sure that Noodle is green, but it’s just a gut feeling

Megar: Some one claimed sheriff and suggested that you flipped red, which I find a bit suspicious, but of course they could just be lying. I also find it a bit odd how you jumped on the bandwagon without even questioning why we were lynching Koe, but then again, most of the votes, even mine were bandwagon so it’s not that suspicious.

Witchking666: Similar reason to the helmetguy1, tried to formulate a plan to get a blue alliance started, so I find him pretty trustworthy.

TLtimelord: Talk more

Spinda: Tried to make the lynch into a lose-lose-lose situation no matter what we did, which I don’t exactly see why, something’s just off about it.

Zeldamaster12: I don’t really see anything suspicious about you at the moment.

Cedur: For some odd reason considered me a lead when I don’t exactly see what it is, however, he didn’t jump on the baseless bandwagon, so that makes it a bit less suspicious.

Danny: Really don’t have much of an idea on him

Doesntpostverymuch: Talk more

Noodle: I’ll cut you some slack because your new, but I feel you should be a bit more careful about how you react to people trying to help you

MECHDRAGON777: I find it a bit odd that you said that Megar should be lynched for whatever reason if Koe came up red, It’s not like Megar even defended him.

Uzendayo: Talk more

If Zeldamaster12 or the person claiming Sheriff did this to save a powerful teammate (which would have been King of Eternity in that scenario), They would be throwing Megar under the buss to save him. I guess the better thing to say would be this:
King of Eternity Green: Lynch Megar.
King of Eternity Red : Lynch who claimed to Zeldamaster12.

[PersonNamedUser]

This is my very first time making a suspicion list but here's what i think at the moment:

Green – Not Suspicious
Yellow – A Bit Suspicious
Red – Suspicious

ShadowStarX: I suspect him slighty as he lead a bandwagon againist KoE without much reason

MosaicMario: Hey look I’m rainbow

Thehelmetguy1: I’m pretty much in the clear with him since he tried to get a blue alliance started which is the last thing the mafia want to happen

Sanct: Talk more

Glitch4: I Find a bit odd how he’s absoulety sure that Noodle is green, but it’s just a gut feeling

Megar: Some one claimed sheriff and suggested that you flipped red, which I find a bit suspicious, but of course they could just be lying. I also find it a bit odd how you jumped on the bandwagon without even questioning why we were lynching Koe, but then again, most of the votes, even mine were bandwagon so it’s not that suspicious.

Witchking666: Similar reason to the helmetguy1, tried to formulate a plan to get a blue alliance started, so I find him pretty trustworthy.

TLtimelord: Talk more

Spinda: Tried to make the lynch into a lose-lose-lose situation no matter what we did, which I don’t exactly see why, something’s just off about it.

Zeldamaster12: I don’t really see anything suspicious about you at the moment.

Cedur: For some odd reason considered me a lead when I don’t exactly see what it is, however, he didn’t jump on the baseless bandwagon, so that makes it a bit less suspicious.

Danny: Really don’t have much of an idea on him

Doesntpostverymuch: Talk more

Noodle: I’ll cut you some slack because your new, but I feel you should be a bit more careful about how you react to people trying to help you

MECHDRAGON777: I find it a bit odd that you said that Megar should be lynched for whatever reason if Koe came up red, It’s not like Megar even defended him.

Uzendayo: Talk more

If Zeldamaster12 or the person claiming Sheriff did this to save a powerful teammate (which would have been King of Eternity in that scenario), They would be throwing Megar under the buss to save him. I guess the better thing to say would be this:
King of Eternity Green: Lynch Megar.
King of Eternity Red : Lynch who claimed to Zeldamaster12.

I guess it would

Mosaic why am I the only black guy.

I'm just unsure of you which is why your not any of those 3 colors.

[Zeldamaster12]

Electriking was green, sure didn't expect that.

[Zeldamaster12]

Also I have a very strong gut feeling I'm going to be targeted tonight, so if the doctor is alive, a heal would be appreciated. Assuming the person claiming Sheriff is legit, the Mafia doesn't know who claimed, so killing the mouthpiece would be their next best option.

[PersonNamedUser]

Also I have a very strong gut feeling I'm going to be targeted tonight, so if the doctor is alive, a heal would be appreciated. Assuming the person claiming Sheriff is legit, the Mafia doesn't know who claimed, so killing the mouthpiece would be their next best option.

this'll actually help us to determine if the doctor is alive in the process

[Doesntpostverymuch]

Also I have a very strong gut feeling I'm going to be targeted tonight, so if the doctor is alive, a heal would be appreciated. Assuming the person claiming Sheriff is legit, the Mafia doesn't know who claimed, so killing the mouthpiece would be their next best option.

this'll actually help us to determine if the doctor is alive in the process

great idea!

[underFlo]

even if the dotor isnt alive, there still has to be the nurse who is now a doctor.

Also MosaicMario you keep saying that I try making the lynch a lose-lose situation but you never really specified further or debunked what I was saying. Was what I said wrong?

[MECHDRAGON777]

even if the dotor isnt alive, there still has to be the nurse who is now a doctor.

Also MosaicMario you keep saying that I try making the lynch a lose-lose situation but you never really specified further or debunked what I was saying. Was what I said wrong?

I also want to know where this lose-lose senario is coming from.

[PersonNamedUser]

I wouldn't go with ZM's lead. There's far too many ways this could go wrong: ZM may be Mafia and then claim the the alleged Sheriff was somebody else, the Sheriff may be fake and wants to get ZM and Megar killed, or maybe the Sheriff is Mafia and Megar is being bussed. The Mafia is quite powerful in this game and has two vanillas to spare, and unless the Sheriff got killed N1 CCs won't happen.

And aside from maybe potentially lynching a Mafia, there's not much to be gained as far as information goes. If Megar is red, the Sheriff is maybe confirmed to one player that may also be Mafia; and the claim itself may still have been faked and Megar was bussed.
If Megar were green, then either ZM or the Sheriff claim are Mafia, which isn't all that comcrete either.

And lastly, why now? One idea I have is that maybe Electriking is a powerful Mafia role and the Mafia want to stop the lynch at all costs, potentially sacrificing a vanilla in the process. As such, if KoE cardflips red I'd be suspicious of the Sheriff or ZM. The Mafia may not have known if KoE would have been back in time.

Read over this post again, and this here is what I'm talking about. It just seems to be assuming worst case scenario.

[MECHDRAGON777]

I wouldn't go with ZM's lead. There's far too many ways this could go wrong: ZM may be Mafia and then claim the the alleged Sheriff was somebody else, the Sheriff may be fake and wants to get ZM and Megar killed, or maybe the Sheriff is Mafia and Megar is being bussed. The Mafia is quite powerful in this game and has two vanillas to spare, and unless the Sheriff got killed N1 CCs won't happen.

And aside from maybe potentially lynching a Mafia, there's not much to be gained as far as information goes. If Megar is red, the Sheriff is maybe confirmed to one player that may also be Mafia; and the claim itself may still have been faked and Megar was bussed.
If Megar were green, then either ZM or the Sheriff claim are Mafia, which isn't all that comcrete either.

And lastly, why now? One idea I have is that maybe Electriking is a powerful Mafia role and the Mafia want to stop the lynch at all costs, potentially sacrificing a vanilla in the process. As such, if KoE cardflips red I'd be suspicious of the Sheriff or ZM. The Mafia may not have known if KoE would have been back in time.

Read over this post again, and this here is what I'm talking about. It just seems to be assuming worst case scenario.

To me, looks like Sounds was just stratagist why Zeldamaster12 made the post he did. Nothing about forcing a lose-lose lunch vote.

[PersonNamedUser]

I wouldn't go with ZM's lead. There's far too many ways this could go wrong: ZM may be Mafia and then claim the the alleged Sheriff was somebody else, the Sheriff may be fake and wants to get ZM and Megar killed, or maybe the Sheriff is Mafia and Megar is being bussed. The Mafia is quite powerful in this game and has two vanillas to spare, and unless the Sheriff got killed N1 CCs won't happen.

And aside from maybe potentially lynching a Mafia, there's not much to be gained as far as information goes. If Megar is red, the Sheriff is maybe confirmed to one player that may also be Mafia; and the claim itself may still have been faked and Megar was bussed.
If Megar were green, then either ZM or the Sheriff claim are Mafia, which isn't all that comcrete either.

And lastly, why now? One idea I have is that maybe Electriking is a powerful Mafia role and the Mafia want to stop the lynch at all costs, potentially sacrificing a vanilla in the process. As such, if KoE cardflips red I'd be suspicious of the Sheriff or ZM. The Mafia may not have known if KoE would have been back in time.

Read over this post again, and this here is what I'm talking about. It just seems to be assuming worst case scenario.

To me, looks like Sounds was just stratagist why Zeldamaster12 made the post he did. Nothing about forcing a lose-lose lunch vote.

That does make some sense if he was just stating what could go wrong, to be hontest, day 1 lynches are almost always a huge risk.

[MECHDRAGON777]

Read over this post again, and this here is what I'm talking about. It just seems to be assuming worst case scenario.

To me, looks like Sounds was just stratagist why Zeldamaster12 made the post he did. Nothing about forcing a lose-lose lunch vote.

That does make some sense if he was just stating what could go wrong, to be hontest, day 1 lynches are almost always a huge risk.

Risky but mandatory. I think we should go after Megar because of that Sherrif Claim though. Zeldamaster12 will most likely be targeted tonight if he really is a mouth piece. I doubt the nurse/doctor would protect him tonight, but they may.

[Cedur]

For some odd reason considered me a lead when I don’t exactly see what it is, however, he didn’t jump on the baseless bandwagon, so that makes it a bit less suspicious.

Well, I'm late with explaining this, at the start of the day both you and Mech made a bunch of posts with few substance about what role Waddle Derp was. You also made one edgy post (bottom of page 4), so this was the first thing that gathered my attention. But I guess it doesn't really hold relevance.

[MECHDRAGON777]

For some odd reason considered me a lead when I don’t exactly see what it is, however, he didn’t jump on the baseless bandwagon, so that makes it a bit less suspicious.

Well, I'm late with explaining this, at the start of the day both you and Mech made a bunch of posts with few substance about what role Waddle Derp was. You also made one edgy post (bottom of page 4), so this was the first thing that gathered my attention. But I guess it doesn't really hold relevance.

I was actually wondering what role he could have been is all.

[Cedur]

This is my very first time making a suspicion list but here's what i think at the moment:

Green – Not Suspicious
Yellow – A Bit Suspicious
Red – Suspicious

ShadowStarX: I suspect him slighty as he lead a bandwagon againist KoE without much reason

MosaicMario: Hey look I’m rainbow

Thehelmetguy1: I’m pretty much in the clear with him since he tried to get a blue alliance started which is the last thing the mafia want to happen

Sanct: Talk more

Glitch4: I Find a bit odd how he’s absoulety sure that Noodle is green, but it’s just a gut feeling

Megar: Some one claimed sheriff and suggested that you flipped red, which I find a bit suspicious, but of course they could just be lying. I also find it a bit odd how you jumped on the bandwagon without even questioning why we were lynching Koe, but then again, most of the votes, even mine were bandwagon so it’s not that suspicious.

Witchking666: Similar reason to the helmetguy1, tried to formulate a plan to get a blue alliance started, so I find him pretty trustworthy.

TLtimelord: Talk more

Spinda: Tried to make the lynch into a lose-lose-lose situation no matter what we did, which I don’t exactly see why, something’s just off about it.

Zeldamaster12: I don’t really see anything suspicious about you at the moment.

Cedur: For some odd reason considered me a lead when I don’t exactly see what it is, however, he didn’t jump on the baseless bandwagon, so that makes it a bit less suspicious.

Danny: Really don’t have much of an idea on him

Doesntpostverymuch: Talk more

Noodle: I’ll cut you some slack because your new, but I feel you should be a bit more careful about how you react to people trying to help you

MECHDRAGON777: I find it a bit odd that you said that Megar should be lynched for whatever reason if Koe came up red, It’s not like Megar even defended him.

Uzendayo: Talk more

[Cedur]

Anyway I've got more to say on the suspicion list.

Thehelmetguy1: I’m pretty much in the clear with him since he tried to get a blue alliance started which is the last thing the mafia want to happen.

Witchking666: Similar reason to the helmetguy1, tried to formulate a plan to get a blue alliance started, so I find him pretty trustworthy.

That's a poor reason to have a townread on someone, the mafiosi do help as much as other townies on alliance plans, since if there's a chance for an alliance, the town will usually grab it anyway, and by appearing helpful, a mafioso also sometimes hopes to infiltrate the alliance.

In fact thg1 is quite my suspect. First putting the vote on Noodle, then extending the bandwagon on KoE further, 20 minutes after the first votes were already thrown, and lots of silly joking.

Megar: Some one claimed sheriff and suggested that you flipped red, which I find a bit suspicious, but of course they could just be lying. I also find it a bit odd how you jumped on the bandwagon without even questioning why we were lynching Koe, but then again, most of the votes, even mine were bandwagon so it’s not that suspicious.

You can say the latter about various other people too. The votes were literally in the same minute, Mega was just the first one to get their post in within seconds.

Glitch4: I Find a bit odd how he’s absoulety sure that Noodle is green, but it’s just a gut feeling

Where was that one coming from? Also, Noodle is not completely unsuspicious as well.

Spinda: Tried to make the lynch into a lose-lose-lose situation no matter what we did, which I don’t exactly see why, something’s just off about it.

Zeldamaster12: I don’t really see anything suspicious about you at the moment.

We're not clear on anything yet. KoE flipped green but that only eliminated a few possibilities. The claimer's identity is nowhere confirmed.

[Cedur]

Also I quoted Mosaic's list because I hit the submit button on the wrong tab, lawl.

[Valentine]

Sanct: Talk more

I was asleep for fuck's sake.

Also I've been talking in the discord just as much as anybody.

[Doesntpostverymuch]

he also said the guy with the username 'Doesn'tpostverymuch' Should talk or post i guess, more.

[Witchking666]

I figured I might also make a suspicion list, gotta during something during the night.
Not suspicous
Slightly suspicious
Very suspicous

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ShadowStarX: I talk to you on disord a lot and you are acting vastly different than usual. You created a pointless bandwagon against electriking for weird reasons. The only reason why I jumped on it because I didn't want to make mech die by KitB. So, I am highly suspicious of ShadowStar at the moment.

MosaicMario: Mosaic's suspicion list was basically just a wall of yellow. According to Mosaic everyone but theHelmetGuy, Noodle, Zeldamaster and I was suspicious in a way. I also found it pretty odd how he had inactives listed as "a bit suspicious". Inactivity has never made anyone look suspicious. Also, if there is one person I don't consider innocent at the moment it's Zeldamaster12. So I find it pretty odd for mosaic to consider him completely free of suspicion. I am not highly suspicious of MosaicMario though. Even though the suspicion list was a bit weird he did mention how it was his first one, so that sort of makes sense.

thehelmetguy01: He tried helping me form a plan night 1 and (unlike some other people) he was also reasonable to drop it as soon as a blue died. My plan would have got us to sacrifice one, maybe two blues. Which we couldn't risk at that point anymore. He did however do some very questionable things throughout the game. For example, putting a vote on noodle. I actually considered doing the same until I realized how much bullshit the reasoning was. I am slightly suspicious of thehelmetguy as of right now.

Sanct: Yeah, not suspicious either. I also talk to sanct a lot on discord and he seems to be acting normal (well, as normal as sanct can get). He isn't suspicious at the moment, but I am still keeping an eye on him as he is known to be quite good at this game.

Glitch4:IT'S ALIVE! Glitch4 is more active than every, and he also seems to be pretty trustworthy. I cannot really tell however as I didn't see him actually play before. So if he is mafia, he is not out of the woods just yet. I am pretty confident of him being a townie though.

Megar:Yeah... this dude. Zeldamaster's sheriff claimer singled him out and said he cardflipped red. I am slightly suspicious of Megar myself too, but not nearly as much as ShadowStarX and Zeldamaster. I don't suspect megar that much. But he is on my radar.

TLtimelord: Not really active, cannot really tell.

Spinda: As Mosaic mentioned, he was pretty fatalistic about the day 1 lynch. But that doesn't make me suspect him. Yesterday's lynch was pretty terrible. So Spinda had all the reason to be negative about it. I also considered yesterday's lynch to be quite a lose-lose situation myself. We were all voting like madmen for peope we didn't suspect. No scumread here.

Zeldamaster12: I am suspicious of Zeldamaster12. It appears people have started trusting him even though he came forth with this vague story about the sheriff claimin. First of all, why would the sheriff do that? there is literally no reason to claim to people in private night 1 already. Sure it is possible for this story to be completely true as we do have a pretty erratic newcomer in the game. But it does make me suspect Zeldamaster quite a bit. Then again, it is completely possible for Noodle to be the sheriff as literally enyone can be anything in Pseudo's games (I was third party in my first game). But to me, the story just seems very odd. Even as a newcomer I would imagine you to have at least a basic understanding of common sense. I am highly suspicious of Zeldamaster and would like to hear his defense, as I am not set on suspecting anyone yet. Another pretty logical option is that the sheriff-claimer might be a mafioso who is trying to frame megar. So Zeldamaster has plenty of room to explain himself.

Cedur: Not suspicious. I am getting a pretty solid townread from Cedur.

Danny: Not suspicious as of right now. I do keep an eye for him as he also doesn't really seem innocent to me. This is however a gut feeling, so please don't take it into account.

Doesntpostverymuch: Inactive, he was adamant on trying to lynch noodle though.

Noodle: I don't really know what to say here. Noodle is a newcomer, and they are for sure acting like one. Placing a baseless vote on Mechdragon, trying to explain everything away with reasoning that doesn't make sense. I am not suspecting noodle in the way I suspect other people. I just think he is going to end up being a danger to the down later in the game, even when he is town. Baseless voting is quite dangerous, especially because you cannot retract your votes and only change them. I wouldn't risk lynching him though, he is most likely just a newcomer playing as townie.

Mechdragon: Yeah, I really don't suspect mechdragon. Making weird comments is simply what Mechdragon does best.

Uzendayo:Inactive.