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Shidomaru
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Postby Shidomaru » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:47 pm
Okay... Be honest with me here: Out of the thousands and thousands of SMBX users in this forum... HOW MANY of you are REALLY good at making your own sprites!? You see, I'm having serious trouble finding a good spriter to make a team with, since I completely lack the ability to make sprites on my own. With so many potentially talented people posting here everyday, I was expecting I'd easily find somebody who could help me. All the levels of my current project are already built, but I can't post it because I don't have the graphics!  I even tried Zant's workshop, but I think he's not active anymore.
The embarrassing truth is that I'm a big otaku  and so most of my game ideas are about anime-style girls (including things that are not animes themselves but are drawn in the same style, such as Touhou). Because of my tastes, I have a hard time coming up with proper Super Mario stories, and without a spriter helping me, my choices for playable beautiful girls are down to Peach, Daisy, Rosalina, Samus and I think Pauline, none of which I'm very familiar with. The episode ideas I came up with instead offer playable characters such as Cirno, Marisa, Youmu, Kogasa, Seija, Sukuna (all from Touhou), the K-On girls, Lucy and Juvia from Fairy Tail, Misty from Pokémon... and even the beautiful HINATA HYUGA!! And don't get me started on all the custom enemies that games starred by those characters would require!
So... That's my problem  That's why I can't post my episode about Cirno despite having all levels completed. And no, I can't use any other program to make my games. SMBX was the only thing I was able to master with what little talent I have. Right now, SMBX is my only hope for making doujin games, but without help in the graphics department I can't do it! I seriously need some help!  PLEASE!
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underFlo
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Postby underFlo » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:56 pm
Making all these sprites for the playables would take a whole lot of time.
Also the title kinda doesn't sound so nice, especially since the title doesn't really have anything to do with the request.
This should probably also got to Graphics> Requests.
Btw, I'm not all that good at spriting myself and really busy atm, so I won't be able to help you there.
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silent_
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Postby silent_ » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:05 pm
It seems you don't understand that spriting is a very hard and time-consuming job. It would take months - months - for one to do all of those things you want, but that's not even the biggest problem you would face: The biggest problem you would face is finding someone generous, willing and patient enough to make any of that stuff.
Also, I suggest you word your titles better; that title is extremely rude and blunt and at first I thought this would be some kind of hate thread.
Lastly:
Shidomaru wrote:Out of the thousands and thousands of SMBX users in this forum
There's not even two thousand people on this forum yet.
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Imaynotbehere4long
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Postby Imaynotbehere4long » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:10 pm
Well, seeing as how this community is built around a level editor as opposed to 16-bit graphics creation, I doubt that most people here are skilled at making CGFX from scratch, so I'm not surprised that you're having trouble finding someone willing to help you. Even if you can't find anyone to help you, you could always try searching for "16-bit Cirno sprites" or something along those lines. Who knows; you may get lucky and find some, and then all you'd have to do is import them to SMBX.
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Shidomaru
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Postby Shidomaru » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:12 pm
Nickname wrote:Making all these sprites for the playables would take a whole lot of time.
Also the title kinda doesn't sound so nice, especially since the title doesn't really have anything to do with the request.
This should probably also got to Graphics> Requests.
Btw, I'm not all that good at spriting myself and really busy atm, so I won't be able to help you there.
I see  My apologies if I'm causing any trouble, I'm desperate right now. I can post this again on the proper place, if you wish.
Also, I don't need ALL those playables right now, just Cirno and the enemies/objects for her episode.
Kep wrote:It seems you don't understand that spriting is a very hard and time-consuming job. It would take months - months - for one to do all of those things you want, but that's not even the biggest problem you would face: The biggest problem you would face is finding someone generous, willing and patient enough to make any of that stuff.
Also, I suggest you word your titles better; that title is extremely rude and blunt and at first I thought this would be some kind of hate thread.
Naturally, a person like me with absolutely zero talent at making sprites is incapable of understanding how it works ¬//¬ ...BUT if I mainly depend on people's generosity and patience, then I'm DOOMED!  I'd better give up on anime-related projects and focus on something possible.
As for the title wording, I have no social skills.
Imaynotbehere4long wrote:Well, seeing as how this community is built around a level editor as opposed to 16-bit graphics creation, I doubt that most people here are skilled at making CGFX from scratch, so I'm not surprised that you're having trouble finding someone willing to help you. Even if you can't find anyone to help you, you could always try searching for "16-bit Cirno sprites" or something along those lines. Who knows; you may get lucky and find some, and then all you'd have to do is import them to SMBX.
Thank you, Imaynotbethere4long. I'll try that.
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underFlo
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Postby underFlo » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:15 pm
Even just making one playable from scratch would take its time.
As for the title, something like "Anime Playables" or similar would do the job just fine. In requests of any kind, titles should just be straightforward so people can tell just from reading the title what you want.
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Shidomaru
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Postby Shidomaru » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:22 pm
Nickname wrote:Even just making one playable from scratch would take its time.
As for the title, something like "Anime Playables" or similar would do the job just fine. In requests of any kind, titles should just be straightforward so people can tell just from reading the title what you want.
My problem isn't the time, it's just that nobody took my earlier requests (actually one person did at first, but backed out soon after due to having a full agenda).  I didn't mean this post to request specific sprites, but I guess it got out of control as I wrote it. What I wanted to know is literally how many sprite makers are here in the forum, and judging from what Kep said, this is the wrong place to look.
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BobPickle
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Postby BobPickle » Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:58 pm
I'm OK at making sprites, but only if I have other sprites to base them on. For example, I could make a variation of (an) existing texture(s) (like custom paintings or different types of mushrooms) but I probably couldn't make a whole new sprite (at least not very well). Also, (In my opinion) anime sprites are especially hard to make, because (in my opinion) the 2 styles (pixelated and anime) are very different and wouldn't work well together. (but I'm sure someone will prove me wrong)
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Shidomaru
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Postby Shidomaru » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:37 pm
BobPickle wrote:I'm OK at making sprites, but only if I have other sprites to base them on. For example, I could make a variation of (an) existing texture(s) (like custom paintings or different types of mushrooms) but I probably couldn't make a whole new sprite (at least not very well). Also, (In my opinion) anime sprites are especially hard to make, because (in my opinion) the 2 styles (pixelated and anime) are very different and wouldn't work well together. (but I'm sure someone will prove me wrong)
It's okay -_- ...Besides, the pressure of having to make them uber-cute makes them almost impossible to make right. If making anime characters in SMBX were that easy, the forum would be full of them! I'm going to give up on the Cirno episode and all other anime episodes, and try to think of a less ambitious project that is inside my capabilities. Sorry to have annoyed you all. 
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Postby FanofSMBX » Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:41 am
You could repurpose the Cirno levels as Rosalina levels, the ice theme would go great with her blue dress.
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Shidomaru
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Postby Shidomaru » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:11 pm
FanofSMBX wrote:You could repurpose the Cirno levels as Rosalina levels, the ice theme would go great with her blue dress.
EXCEPT the epidose DIDN'T HAVE any ice levels!!  The worlds were: 1) Misty Lake Zone, 2) Youkai Forest Zone, 3) Untrodden Valley Zone, 4) Water Fall Zone and 5) Moriya Shrine Zone. (Yes, the episode was Sonic-Inspired). But forget it! I will either just give up on it or put some clashing sprites from whatever Touhou fangames I find (which I'm less likely to bother with anyway).
Nah, I'll just work on a different project instead. Something actually Mario-related. See you then.
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Mr Pancake Guy
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Postby Mr Pancake Guy » Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:08 pm
Well, I am a indie game developer, so I'm good at 16-bit pixelart when I try, and when I don't...the result is poorly done 8bit.
but then again i rarely try..
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Postby Squishy Rex » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:13 am
I would say I'm good at it now. This time last year, it would have been a different story. There's still things I can't do yet, but a little more practice should help.
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Shidomaru
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Postby Shidomaru » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:41 am
Mr Pancake Guy wrote:Well, I am a indie game developer, so I'm good at 16-bit pixelart when I try, and when I don't...the result is poorly done 8bit.
Well, that's awesome  What games have you made so far? Maybe I'll feel tempted to try out one or two of them.
Squishy Rex wrote:I would say I'm good at it now. This time last year, it would have been a different story. There's still things I can't do yet, but a little more practice should help.
I don't think you'd be able to draw anime girls in chibi form, right? I mean, they're harder to do because of the obligation to make them uber-cute, especially playable ones. I really ought to think up something non-anime related for my next project. In fact, I DID start a new project with Mario again, but quickly got tired ¬_¬ I think I will take a rest from SMBX for a few weeks.
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Squishy Rex
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Postby Squishy Rex » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:47 am
Shidomaru wrote:Squishy Rex wrote:I would say I'm good at it now. This time last year, it would have been a different story. There's still things I can't do yet, but a little more practice should help.
I don't think you'd be able to draw anime girls in chibi form, right? I mean, they're harder to do because of the obligation to make them uber-cute, especially playable ones. I really ought to think up something non-anime related for my next project. In fact, I DID start a new project with Mario again, but quickly got tired ¬_¬ I think I will take a rest from SMBX for a few weeks.
You're definitely right, anime is not my strong point in spriting or drawing. Anything more Mario related however, should be a piece of cake depending on what it is.
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Shidomaru
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Postby Shidomaru » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:00 am
Squishy Rex wrote:You're definitely right, anime is not my strong point in spriting or drawing. Anything more Mario related however, should be a piece of cake depending on what it is.
Well, since the forum already has quite a lot or Mario-related sprites, it's unlikely that I'll have to ask for new ones... BUT, in case I someday happen to need a certain Mario character and I can't find it in the forums, I'll be sure to look for you. Thank you.
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Postby reghrhre » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:18 am
Mmm, I'm good at drawing tilesets, as for miscellaneous, I haven't done much miscellaneous stuff but the misc stuff that I have drawn were decent. I haven't actually drawn anything in probably a year now so I'm probably shit now.
Also, if you're looking for Chibi Touhou characters I have all the characters from Touhou 1 (I think) thru Touhou 12 from a spritesheet; can't find the original spritesheet however: http://s23.postimg.org/n2qeoj4pn/chibi.png
Obviously, not all the characters are in the pic.
I can send you those if you need it, the sprites are only 1 framed though.
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Shidomaru
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Postby Shidomaru » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:45 am
reghrhre wrote:Mmm, I'm good at drawing tilesets, as for miscellaneous, I haven't done much miscellaneous stuff but the misc stuff that I have drawn were decent. I haven't actually drawn anything in probably a year now so I'm probably shit now.
Also, if you're looking for Chibi Touhou characters I have all the characters from Touhou 1 (I think) thru Touhou 12 from a spritesheet; can't find the original spritesheet however: http://s23.postimg.org/n2qeoj4pn/chibi.png
Obviously, not all the characters are in the pic.
I can send you those if you need it, the sprites are only 1 framed though.
Hmmmmmmmm  ...Would it be possible to use one of those chibi Touhou characters as a base and add frames of animation to it? ...OR instead of creating new Touhou sprites to fit the level tileset's style, take Touhou sprites from a fangame and creating new tilesets to fit their style? ...Although good luck finding all of the characters that appear in my Cirno The Fairy episode all in the same style, especially since a lot of Touhou fangames aren't even platformers. Luckily, almost all of the Touhou characters appearing in my Cirno episode are from Mountain of Faith, since it runs on the Cirno vs. Suwako fanon.
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Postby Tango » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:34 am
Yeah, that is a big problem.
Current i only making NPCs. I also don't believe that make NPCs is more easy than make tiles. My style art is very unique, i make pixel by pixel, and in Paint! But i save in gif in Paint.net, because... My Paint.net is crashed to edit, only to save.
My trick is draw my character first in a paper, after this, i make a pixeled character (with 2x2 pixels, sure) and tah-dah!
I don't know make anime girls, but i think that i can try. The cutest character that i made is Bridget Mouse. Take a look:
About humans, that the only that i made:
Yeah it's a little big, but that is propositional because of my episode. I can make a normal size human if you want, and try make a anime girl.
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Postby Shidomaru » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:46 am
I appreciate your effort, Miles Troopa, but your style doesn't fit with my episode  Sorry.
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