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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby Danny » Fri May 08, 2015 3:56 am

Joey wrote:All of the games exist in the same universe/general area, and everything is part of the same canon.
The problem with this is that all of the Mario games take place in different maps. Sure, they exist in the same universe, hence the "Marioverse", but all of the maps, just as with The Legend of Zelda, are completely different. Examples of this are found in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Paper Mario, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario 3D Land/World, the New Super Mario Bros. games, etc. (excluding only Super Mario RPG). While they all existed in the same universe, they all had different maps and layouts of where everything was, this is also evident in Super Mario 64 and Mario Kart. The only real explanation for this would be the multiverse theory which is strongly supported, but that wouldn't work out for RPs anyway.

The other problem with this is that all of the Mario games have absolutely no canon aside from all of the RPG games + Galaxy, so there is no real way to make any backstory that would make characters unique or interesting in any manner, unless of course you went wacky with it but other than that there isn't really a way to make a character unique enough. That's the problem with this Mario RP.
It'll be up to the RP creators as to which areas they want to set their RPs in.
As far as I'm aware you said that the only ones able of creating roleplays will be the game masters and you, and there isn't really a choice of which areas to set the RPs in, you really have to either make your own or use one from the many games, since all of them are different and unique, they don't all tie-in to the same world. Just like The Legend of Zelda games.

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby underFlo » Fri May 08, 2015 7:15 am

MECHDRAGON777 wrote:
Vinyl Scratch wrote:
Joey wrote:I'm not saying you need to document the entire life of your character. You just need to be detailed in what you do document.
Joey wrote:Background: Who is your character? Where did they come from? What friends and family members do they have? What was their childhood like? This section should be a substantial description of your character (at least 2 paragraphs) that provides outlook on what makes them unique. Develop this as much as you want, but keep it PG-13.

Please edit the OP if you're going to say that then
The OP says that you want us to detail our character's lifes, but this post says you just want us to make the character different
I'm honestly guessing this is literally your first time ever running an RP in a forum, which, if that's the case, then I can understand you making some mistakes here and there
But being nitpicky to the point where there is about 9 characters that have been requested and only 3 have been confirmed to actually be in the RP is not really fun
Mario-Only characters? Okay fine, RPs do these kind of things all the time.
Engrish please? We're not writing a novel here, we're just trying to have fun.
Quality-Control AKA Overpowered characters? Entirely fine if you want them out.
If this REALLY is your first time running a forum RP, then I think you know the responsibility of doing things as such, and you need to know that there is going to be a fine line between being fun with it and being in complete control to the point where it isn't fun at all
I'd suggest making things simplier without being completely nitpicky with it if this really is your first time, it's all I can advice to you
If not, then I'd honestly suggest that someone else run this

The only real reason people would probably join this is because that this is literally the only RP on the forum ever since the other ones have been shut down
If this was just another normal RP post without forcing people to either "Join this RP or don't RP at all", then I can honestly guarantee you that not very many people would like to join this one and would rather feel more unbound instead of tied to a fence. It's like saying to your kids that you're going to the park but they're only allowed to be in this 1 area while everyone else's families are over partying and getting the full extent of the park

I have to agree with Vinyl here, the only reason I am joining or trying ti join is that I have not gotten into an fight with Kōri in two or three years because we had to move here! I love RPGs, and tried out RPs about three years ago, I enjoyed it and eventually made an original character (Kōri is not based off of anything or anyone) and yet she is not allowed. The "Grammar pefectiönist" is not helpin either since it fells like one typographical error ruins your chances! I typed all of mine in a moing vehical as well on a touch screen! No one is a perfectiönist ; or atleast they should not be! I personally think 8bitmushroom or Vinyl should be in charge of this! Even FanofSMBX! I know the first two can do it perfectly or near perfectly! It matters more about fun then perfectiönisim. Do you know how hard it is to edit a sinle letter on a touch screen phone in the middle of a paragraph or sentense? Tha us one of my issues! Vinyl's reason is the most logical thing I heard on this thread (kind of)! If this is your [Joey] first time hosting this, you should know how it is run mostly first! About Quality Control, you can specify what things are overpowered or give a strength limmit! I can weaken Kōri accordingly and still maintain who she is, but not when I fo not know whag is overpowered! Also, the limmite species is more of a nuciance! Since when can you not Role play as a Hume? If I rememer correctl, that is the only reason you tirned her down was because "No Humans allowed" when there are at least seven in the Mario Universe! That is why I think tha is unjustified!

Thank you Vinyl Scratch!
Not using fucking umlauts all the time would increase your chances of getting in. Also, if you type horribly on your phone, don't type on your phone if it's something where correct typing is important. Simple as that. For example, while I could understand what you're saying with your post, it wasn't pleasant to read at all.

Also, all humans in the Marioverse (exclusing spinoffs like the GBA Golf and Tennis games) are special and there aren't any generic humans. He wants this to be specific Marioverse, and having humans and, in the broader sense, chicken would destroy that. If we want this to be Marioverse, use Mario species.

Also am I missing something here or do you only want FoS to lead this bc he supports your character?

Btw I really agree with 8bit on having only a certain game's map used so we can have some sense of pdistance between the characters. Without a map to go by we wouldn't know where everyone is. Either make an original map or expand an exisiting one, or even just simply use an existing one.

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby sleepy » Fri May 08, 2015 3:22 pm

Use the SMRPG map, it's extremely underrated :<

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby Vinyl Scratch » Fri May 08, 2015 6:14 pm

Nickname wrote:and, in the broader sense, chicken would destroy that.
Maybe

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby underFlo » Fri May 08, 2015 6:18 pm

Vinyl Scratch wrote:
Nickname wrote:and, in the broader sense, chicken would destroy that.
Maybe
I'm aware of that, but Chicken are more connected to the real world than the Marioverse. There are also random fish and birds in Mario Kart, does that mean you could RP as them? Of course not.

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby FanofSMBX » Fri May 08, 2015 6:19 pm

Vinyl Scratch wrote:
Nickname wrote:and, in the broader sense, chicken would destroy that.
Maybe
You'd better be ready to do the helmet and pink feathers, and not use it as an excuse to do "LOL I AM A CHICKEN".

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby Vinyl Scratch » Fri May 08, 2015 6:29 pm

FanofSMBX wrote:
Vinyl Scratch wrote:
Nickname wrote:and, in the broader sense, chicken would destroy that.
Maybe
You'd better be ready to do the helmet and pink feathers, and not use it as an excuse to do "LOL I AM A CHICKEN".
LOL I AM A CHICKEN

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby Shadow Yoshi » Fri May 08, 2015 11:19 pm

I think I may need to clarify some things:
- This is not a character creation thread for any specific RP. This is for the RP section of this site in general.
- The Game Masters (or really just Quill and I) will be running the first RP and maybe one more after that, but then we'll turn it over to anyone. Why did you guys think we made an RP idea approval thread? :P


RE: "maps" and areas of the Marioverse - You guys are putting too much emphasis on what "series" or "spin-off" etc. the Mario games are from. It's all Mario, it's all canon, and everything exists in the same world. If someone wants to make an RP that's set in Chucklehuck Woods and transitions later on to Hooktail's Castle, that's fine (obviously that would be kinda weird and may require some extra development, but it's completely fair game).

RE: character creation is too strict - If we don't have regulation then we end up with this. I would much rather have 5 really solid RP characters do an RP than 10 underdeveloped ones.

RE: we aren't writing a novel - The "this isn't an English class so I shouldn't have to use proper English" argument doesn't work here, sorry. In the IRC? Yeah, but not here.

RE: Marioverse-only is stupid - So...you can't be creative unless we allow you to do whatever you want? I don't buy that. Everyone in this community is creative in some way - I have no doubt you can make a good character.

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby MECHDRAGON777 » Sat May 09, 2015 1:14 am

I was just trying to ise he character I use for every thing!

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby Danny » Sat May 09, 2015 1:29 am

Joey wrote:RE: "maps" and areas of the Marioverse - You guys are putting too much emphasis on what "series" or "spin-off" etc. the Mario games are from. It's all Mario, it's all canon, and everything exists in the same world. If someone wants to make an RP that's set in Chucklehuck Woods and transitions later on to Hooktail's Castle, that's fine (obviously that would be kinda weird and may require some extra development, but it's completely fair game).
You entirely missed the point.

As with the Zelda titles, each rendition of the Mushroom and Hyrule Kingdoms and the overlaying land are different. Some descriptions have Toad Town right outside of Peach's Castle, while others have Peach's Castle sitting out in a grassy field, and others have Peach's Castle literally in the center of a town. This is where the multiverse theory plays in and having multiple RPs set in different universes as part of the multiverse will lose consistency almost immediately and will create disbelief.
RE: character creation is too strict - If we don't have regulation then we end up with this. I would much rather have 5 really solid RP characters do an RP than 10 underdeveloped ones.
Here's the deal though, for most RPs, characters are exclusive to that RP and not completely global, as that restricts us to having just one character across multiple RPs, and if those RPs are set in the same universe, in comes the loss of consistency and creation of disbelief. You're directing us to an amateur RP anyhow, the character regulation has nothing to do with an amateur RP, that's the fault of the RP's creator not having some decent regulation, and it's also at the fault of the staff or whoever polices those forums to not be aware of bad RPs. You're blaming the lack of character regulation on a bad RP when you should really be blaming the lack of quality control on the staff/RP hosts. TUA existed for a good, solid year back on SMBXR before moving back to Knux's forum and ultimately landing a spotlight here as one of the better RPs, but when you went and shut things down, it kind of just died.

Good RPs have spawned, but you just seem to take on a pessimistic view (as always) when it comes to these RPs and you show us bad ones so you can have an excuse to regulate character creation.
RE: we aren't writing a novel - The "this isn't an English class so I shouldn't have to use proper English" argument doesn't work here, sorry. In the IRC? Yeah, but not here.
Actually, it should work here, because you don't have to be a complete grammar Nazi about this. While I don't care for bad English as much as the next English major, you should learn to respect those who have trouble with the language, especially those that may be foreign to it in the first place. We don't have to have Grade A English in order to post in an RP forum, because if you really expect that from most of this community, you'll soon find that not a lot of people will be participating as much because of your rather strict "English Major only" policy.

And then directing the argument over to IRC is sort of shooting yourself in the foot and might cause some problems, because by saying that people can easily interpret you saying the normal people in IRC have bad English. Also, why is your grammar Nazi policy only relevant to the forums and not the IRC if that's the case? People should be allowed to participate in anything they want regardless of their English abilities unless it is completely incomprehensible. You told lighthouse64 to post in better English earlier, but from what I saw, everything he wrote was comprehensible enough to be good in a RP, while it certainly wasn't Grade A English, it was still good enough.

The RP is supposed to let people have fun, but if we have to follow a very strict regiment of completely Grade A proper English and completely unique, one-of-a-kind characters, it's not going to be very fun.
RE: Marioverse-only is stupid - So...you can't be creative unless we allow you to do whatever you want? I don't buy that. Everyone in this community is creative in some way - I have no doubt you can make a good character.
Thanks a lot for misinterpreting everything. Nobody said that Marioverse-only was stupid, not a single person here did. And nobody said we can't be creative unless you allow us to do whatever we want. But you can't really expect anyone to be that creative with something as bland and inconsistent as the Marioverse. It's near impossible to create some unique, exciting, well-developed characters in the Marioverse when there isn't much interaction between various species barely at all, and there is almost no storyline to follow nor any real exciting species to base characters off of in the first place. While it wouldn't be too much better, a Zelda RP would have a better following than a Marioverse RP, because eventually you're going to see a bunch of Yoshis or otherwise generic characters walking around. It's just not possible to have in-depth characters while keeping their backgrounds rather bland but descriptive.

It's not just the Marioverse though, it's mostly all of Nintendo's universes, maybe aside from the Mother universe, that are bland and not very easy to have fun RPs out of. It's just that most of the games follow the one titular character and really nothing else, so it's kind of hard to expand to create your own characters based around that. Games like Mother or Final Fantasy are a little easier to create RPs out of since they don't centralize around a single character and have rather large, expansive worlds enough that it would be consistent and original enough to come up with your own characters, whereas the Marioverse is rather bland and not as exciting or expansive to create any good characters from it, because we'll be seeing a lot of Yoshis, I can already tell you that.

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby Shadow Yoshi » Sat May 09, 2015 6:20 pm

8bitmushroom wrote:As with the Zelda titles, each rendition of the Mushroom and Hyrule Kingdoms and the overlaying land are different. Some descriptions have Toad Town right outside of Peach's Castle, while others have Peach's Castle sitting out in a grassy field, and others have Peach's Castle literally in the center of a town. This is where the multiverse theory plays in and having multiple RPs set in different universes as part of the multiverse will lose consistency almost immediately and will create disbelief.
That's the type of thing, though, that we will deal with if we ever come to it. No reason to regulate our whole RP universe to try to solve a problem that may never actually happen.
8bitmushroom wrote:Here's the deal though, for most RPs, characters are exclusive to that RP and not completely global, as that restricts us to having just one character across multiple RPs, and if those RPs are set in the same universe, in comes the loss of consistency and creation of disbelief. You're directing us to an amateur RP anyhow, the character regulation has nothing to do with an amateur RP, that's the fault of the RP's creator not having some decent regulation, and it's also at the fault of the staff or whoever polices those forums to not be aware of bad RPs. You're blaming the lack of character regulation on a bad RP when you should really be blaming the lack of quality control on the staff/RP hosts. TUA existed for a good, solid year back on SMBXR before moving back to Knux's forum and ultimately landing a spotlight here as one of the better RPs, but when you went and shut things down, it kind of just died.
We aren't restricting you to use one character across all RPs. I don't know where you got that idea from. You can create multiple characters and any character can be used in any RP (unless the host restricts it to Zelda-only characters or something, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it), since all of the RPs take place in the same canon.
8bitmushroom wrote:Good RPs have spawned, but you just seem to take on a pessimistic view (as always) when it comes to these RPs and you show us bad ones so you can have an excuse to regulate character creation.
Feel free to point me to a good RP that has happened here.
8bitmushroom wrote:Actually, it should work here, because you don't have to be a complete grammar Nazi about this. While I don't care for bad English as much as the next English major, you should learn to respect those who have trouble with the language, especially those that may be foreign to it in the first place. We don't have to have Grade A English in order to post in an RP forum, because if you really expect that from most of this community, you'll soon find that not a lot of people will be participating as much because of your rather strict "English Major only" policy.
I would much rather have 5 people participate in an RP who type English normally than 10 that can't.
8bitmushroom wrote:And then directing the argument over to IRC is sort of shooting yourself in the foot and might cause some problems, because by saying that people can easily interpret you saying the normal people in IRC have bad English. Also, why is your grammar Nazi policy only relevant to the forums and not the IRC if that's the case? People should be allowed to participate in anything they want regardless of their English abilities unless it is completely incomprehensible. You told lighthouse64 to post in better English earlier, but from what I saw, everything he wrote was comprehensible enough to be good in a RP, while it certainly wasn't Grade A English, it was still good enough.
I'm not looking for Grade A English - I'm looking for correct English. And my IRC remark was made solely for the purpose of saying "I don't regulate English that much in the IRC". No need to dig deeper and try to pin on me an accusation against the people of the IRC.
8bitmushroom wrote:The RP is supposed to let people have fun, but if we have to follow a very strict regiment of completely Grade A proper English and completely unique, one-of-a-kind characters, it's not going to be very fun.
So bad English and underdeveloped characters is more fun?
8bitmushroom wrote:Thanks a lot for misinterpreting everything. Nobody said that Marioverse-only was stupid, not a single person here did. And nobody said we can't be creative unless you allow us to do whatever we want. But you can't really expect anyone to be that creative with something as bland and inconsistent as the Marioverse. It's near impossible to create some unique, exciting, well-developed characters in the Marioverse when there isn't much interaction between various species barely at all, and there is almost no storyline to follow nor any real exciting species to base characters off of in the first place. While it wouldn't be too much better, a Zelda RP would have a better following than a Marioverse RP, because eventually you're going to see a bunch of Yoshis or otherwise generic characters walking around. It's just not possible to have in-depth characters while keeping their backgrounds rather bland but descriptive.

It's not just the Marioverse though, it's mostly all of Nintendo's universes, maybe aside from the Mother universe, that are bland and not very easy to have fun RPs out of. It's just that most of the games follow the one titular character and really nothing else, so it's kind of hard to expand to create your own characters based around that. Games like Mother or Final Fantasy are a little easier to create RPs out of since they don't centralize around a single character and have rather large, expansive worlds enough that it would be consistent and original enough to come up with your own characters, whereas the Marioverse is rather bland and not as exciting or expansive to create any good characters from it, because we'll be seeing a lot of Yoshis, I can already tell you that.
I think I'm just going to stop here because you clearly think that you can't develop good characters and stories within the Marioverse, an idea with which I disagree.

If you want to continue this discussion, do so via PM.

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby MECHDRAGON777 » Sat May 09, 2015 6:41 pm

Joey wrote:
8bitmushroom wrote:Here's the deal though, for most RPs, characters are exclusive to that RP and not completely global, as that restricts us to having just one character across multiple RPs, and if those RPs are set in the same universe, in comes the loss of consistency and creation of disbelief. You're directing us to an amateur RP anyhow, the character regulation has nothing to do with an amateur RP, that's the fault of the RP's creator not having some decent regulation, and it's also at the fault of the staff or whoever polices those forums to not be aware of bad RPs. You're blaming the lack of character regulation on a bad RP when you should really be blaming the lack of quality control on the staff/RP hosts. TUA existed for a good, solid year back on SMBXR before moving back to Knux's forum and ultimately landing a spotlight here as one of the better RPs, but when you went and shut things down, it kind of just died.
We aren't restricting you to use one character across all RPs. I don't know where you got that idea from. You can create multiple characters and any character can be used in any RP (unless the host restricts it to Zelda-only characters or something, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it), since all of the RPs take place in the same canon.
8bitmushroom wrote:Good RPs have spawned, but you just seem to take on a pessimistic view (as always) when it comes to these RPs and you show us bad ones so you can have an excuse to regulate character creation.
Feel free to point me to a good RP that has happened here.
He did post an example of a good RP with little restriction of character!
The Unknown Adventure
8bitmushroom wrote:TUA existed for a good, solid year back on SMBXR before moving back to Knux's forum and ultimately landing a spotlight here as one of the better RPs, but when you went and shut things down, it kind of just died.

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby Bomber57 » Sat May 09, 2015 7:57 pm

MECHDRAGON777 wrote: He did post an example of a good RP with little restriction of character!
The Unknown Adventure
8bitmushroom wrote:TUA existed for a good, solid year back on SMBXR before moving back to Knux's forum and ultimately landing a spotlight here as one of the better RPs, but when you went and shut things down, it kind of just died.
Well yeah but you and whatever other guy added like 10 pages every night when everyone else was asleep.

Playing devil's advocate here I guess but I feel the restrictions are necessary. Sure, Joey might be a little nitpicky about certain grammatical errors but he only wants to make sure that our RP experience is of good quality. I can agree with some of the characters he didn't allow in (not gonna lie, but especially Mechdragon's).

I really think this argument is kinda dumb though and only shows that we are yet again incapable of cooperating on something because we always have to turn it into a big show, eh? Dig at each other for the littlest things? That sorta shit?

Anyhow, I will be posting my character soon.

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby FanofSMBX » Sat May 09, 2015 9:12 pm

Let me state a few things. Draw your own conclusion.
1. Kōri is way overpowered.
2. TUA was fun and exhilarating.
3. TUA was only civilized because everybody made sure not to spoil the broth. It could have went south earlier.
4. TUA is rather cringeworthy and I wouldn't show it to anyone I wanted to be professional with.
5. TUA was popular because it operated on trust. Trust that you would change an OP post. Trust that you would play the setting straight and not as a joke. Trust that you would be fair to the other players.
6. Joey seems to be putting his guard up, which is a rather uneasy stance.
7. Some RPs from earlier were just structure less, which is what TUA could have been.

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby Danny » Sat May 09, 2015 9:55 pm

FanofSMBX wrote:Let me state a few things. Draw your own conclusion.
1. Kōri is way overpowered.
2. TUA was fun and exhilarating.
3. TUA was only civilized because everybody made sure not to spoil the broth. It could have went south earlier.
4. TUA is rather cringeworthy and I wouldn't show it to anyone I wanted to be professional with.
5. TUA was popular because it operated on trust. Trust that you would change an OP post. Trust that you would play the setting straight and not as a joke. Trust that you would be fair to the other players.
6. Joey seems to be putting his guard up, which is a rather uneasy stance.
7. Some RPs from earlier were just structure less, which is what TUA could have been.
Pretty much this. While I don't detest to having some form of regulation among characters and the RPs in general, the barrier doesn't need to be so solid, give it a little flimsiness.

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby Vinyl Scratch » Sat May 09, 2015 10:05 pm

FanofSMBX wrote:4. TUA is rather cringeworthy and I wouldn't show it to anyone I wanted to be professional with.
>RP
>Professional
Pick one

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby Shadow Yoshi » Sun May 10, 2015 10:57 am

Vinyl Scratch wrote:
FanofSMBX wrote:4. TUA is rather cringeworthy and I wouldn't show it to anyone I wanted to be professional with.
>RP
>Professional
Pick one
If you're going to have this attitude then just don't participate.

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby lighthouse64 » Sun May 10, 2015 12:52 pm

I would much rather have 5 people participate in an RP who type English normally than 10 that can't.
That also means the people who have lots of typos... And I type english all the time

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby Bomber57 » Sun May 10, 2015 1:01 pm

lighthouse64 wrote:
I would much rather have 5 people participate in an RP who type English normally than 10 that can't.
That also means the people who have lots of typos... And I type english all the time
Yeah, taking the time to proofread your RP posts really shows that you care and want to put forth the proper effort.

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Re: Character Creation/Approval Thread

Postby Marina » Sun May 10, 2015 3:41 pm

Here I go I guess..

Name: Meeko
Gender: Male
Age: young Adult
Species: Magikoopa
Appearance: Meeko has dark grey/brownish skin instead of yellow and wears a purple coat with dark blue sleeves and hat. His wand has a green orb attached to it.
Personality: He is rather quiet, but eccentric and smart. He only talks when he needs to. He is afraid of making mistakes, which can make him very clumsy, if he makes one.
Background: Meeko comes from a long line of powerful Magikoopas, who had always been loyal to Bowser since he started building an army. Growing up, Meeko was expected to become a great Magikoopa and was trained to be perfect at casting spells. Meeko had always been a good student and a natural at transformation spells, mastering school with relative ease. He studied at the University of Goom, where he majored in the studies of ancient spells. After finishing his studies, he got pressured into joining Bowser's army by his friends and family. There, using his knowledge in lesser known spells and magic, Meeko quickly became one of Bowser's highest ranked Magikoopas, with only Kamek and Kammy standing over him. Soon though, he fell in love with a local Koopa from Toad Town. This became a problem when he was ordered to attack Toad Town with the army. Meeko wanted to spare the Koopa, but Kamek ordered to take the Koopa hostage anyways. The whereabouts of the Koopa are currently unknown, Meeko however has since turned his back on his family and Bowser's army and is now in search of his beloved Koopa.

EDIT: fleshed out the story a bit
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